Topband: 160 vertical/L

2017-01-26 Thread Richard Fry
Previously - >... I ran across this, which was originally posted > on the Broadcasting list ... __ Below is a link from a followup post there with a NEC4.2 analysis of the performance of a 1/4-wave monopole driven against a set of 4 x 1/4-wave, elevated, horizontal radials. https://s28.

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2017-01-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
One reason for the 120 radial ground system on broadcast sticks often over-looked is that a large number of radials below grade makes the system more stable over seasons between dry and wet wx. It may not matter as much for ham but many radials causes the Z to settle down or not vary as widely bet

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2017-01-23 Thread Donald Chester
I ran across this, which was originally posted on the Broadcasting list and may be of interest to Topbanders. Something I might add as a justification for exceeding, if possible, the point of diminishing returns in a radial field (not necessarily going all the way to 120) is that in many insta

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-12-07 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Ignacy, I didn't see any response to your proposal. There are several issues. 1) If the two antennas are using the same elevated radials, the radials cannot possibly be effective on both bands without special engineering or switching. Well-engineered ground radials do not have resonance effe

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-12-05 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
7;re > running high power. > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Don Kirk" > To: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" > Cc: "topband" > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:32:26 PM > Subject: Re: T

Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-12-05 Thread Ignacy Misztal
I have an 80m full-size wire vertical and 160m inv L using the same 8 long elevated (and tuned) radials, each 20m long and 2m high. The RCS-4 switch picks up either antenna. Having separate feeds makes tuning simple. Compared to an 80m flattop at 20m fed with ladderline, the 80m vertical is usuall

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-11-30 Thread Alan Swinger
5:16 AM >To: topband >Subject: Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L > >Hi Mike, > > >An inverted-L with 50-60 feet vertical is a far superior choice than >a bottom loaded vertical. Its much more efficient, its bandwidth >is much broader and you don't have to deal with the ver

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-11-30 Thread Bob Cutter via Topband
--- > *From: *"Don Kirk" > *To: *"W0MU Mike Fatchett" > *Cc: *"topband" > *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:32:26 PM > *Subject: *Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L > > HI Mike, > > I use a 68 foot based loaded vertical on 160 meters

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-11-30 Thread Rik van Riel
On Wed, 2016-11-30 at 15:22 +0100, Maciej Wieczorek wrote: > Hi , > > did anyone try to match such 160m vertical /L or /T on 80m? > How about efficiency? > > After my 31m tall vertical broke last sunday (now it's 23m only) my > idea isĀ  > to add 2 x15m top loading wires, making a T-vertical. 160m

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-11-30 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
f the loaded vertical, especially if you're running high power. 73 Frank W3LPL *From: *"Don Kirk" *To: *"W0MU Mike Fatchett" *Cc: *"topband" *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:32:26 PM *S

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-11-30 Thread Maciej Wieczorek
;d like to use it also on 80m. TNX 73's Mac SP2XF / SN2M - Original Message - From: To: "topband" Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L Hi Mike, An inverted-L with 50-60 feet vertical is a far superior choice than a bo

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-11-30 Thread donovanf
high power. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Don Kirk" To: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" Cc: "topband" Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:32:26 PM Subject: Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L HI Mike, I use a 68 foot based loaded vertical on

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-11-30 Thread Don Kirk
HI Mike, I use a 68 foot based loaded vertical on 160 meters with 55 short buried ground radials (2500 feet of ground radials). I only run 100 watts and located near Indianapolis. I would prefer an Inverted-L over the base loaded vertical on 160 meters (the L would be much more efficient), but h

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-11-29 Thread Tim Childers K9CQ
12:33 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: 160 vertical/L I have a full sized 80m vertical and a Top loaded Cushcraft 33ft vertical for 160. The Cushcraft gets out but not great. I was thinking about using an inverted L over the radial field that I use for the 160. It is 30ish radia

Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-11-29 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I have a full sized 80m vertical and a Top loaded Cushcraft 33ft vertical for 160. The Cushcraft gets out but not great. I was thinking about using an inverted L over the radial field that I use for the 160. It is 30ish radials of various lengths or I have seen where people have loaded the 8