Topband: Beverage antenna

Was wondering since the matching unit for the beverage is 9:1, would it be possible to feed the antenna with 450 ohm ladder line directly? Would this lessen the effectiveness of the beverage? Thanks, Ben, K4GHS ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw?

Topband: Beverage Antenna

Thanks to all who replied to my question concerning feeding a Beverage with 450 ohm ladderline. The reason I posed the question was that I have a large roll of ladderline and a 9:1 transformer that I could use and I was trying to save myself the cost of buying coax. I appreciate the help. 73,

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Guy, yes I am using WD1A on a 800 ft reversible around 12 high that has helped me work some tough ones in both directions E-W. I am using KD9SVs matching units. I have nothing to compare it with right now. 73 Mike K4PI ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB Q

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This is my first post so I hope this is correct. Not sure where it's going.. how it's linked in the thread? I have a 160M dipole up as high as I can. About 40 feet at center and 20 feet at ends in the trees. On a sloping hill.. 200ft above ocean that is <100 yards away. South and East are

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After some more reading... It looks like NE is the best approach. Point it towards North America. I can probably get it pointed at the lower states. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go bi-directional or not and try and get Australia / NZ but I think I'll go for quiet and just try NA for now. I

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

Tonight right after sunset I heard AA0RS in Colorado for sure. He popped up on the cluster right then. (I need to learn CW). He was 5-5 on LSB but only 5-1 on CW. I was surprised I couldn't hear him that strong on CW because he was loud and clear on LSB. That's pretty unusual? I believe I

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

Bryan, Use RG-6 direct burial or equivalent for the beverage connection. No need to use LMR400. You should be able to find it relatively inexpensively. Make sure you have a matching transformer for the beverage impedance to 72 ohms for the RG-6. W8JI.com will give you just about all the info

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Thanks for the input guys. Very helpful. I guess those emails don't show up here (private)? New to this system. Forget what I said about dipole radiating right off the ends of the line - straight out.. I thought I read that in one of my books and it said that most people didn't know that..

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I was just reading about SALT spray in Hawaii and the what it does to the soil.. I never thought about that. Salt spray and not much rain for me. Salty volcanic top soil/rock? Again, thanks for all the emails.Helped walk it through. Going N/E and taking it as far away from Dipoles as

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

Original message >Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:02:36 -0500 >From: Les Kalmus >Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna >To: topband@contesting.com > >Bryan, > >Use RG-6 direct burial or equivalent for the beverage connection. No >need to use LMR400. >You should

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That is excellent advice! 160 is a band for vertically-polarized antennas (such as an inverted-L or shunt-fed tower with radials lying on the ground.) http://www.w0btu.com/160_meters.html 73, Mike http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM, wrote: > While a low d

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I'll look into the chicken wire. I heard about that. That sounds good. I should be able to run it to the right and left of the terminated end. Stick a piece of copper in the ground too.. some wires.. a few long ones... :-) On the feed line I can use some of the same, just not as much is n

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Have you ever thought of using a 2-wire bi-directional Beverage? They are not complex at all. It only takes one more wire, two more simple transformers, and one more run of coax. A remote relay and four extra parts even lets you use just one run of coax for both directions. If you run a single wir

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I'm not sure why the bidirectional coaxial cable Beveridge doesn't get more discussion. It is described in ON4UN's book, and seemed to work fine when I built one at a prior QTH, although it does take two feedlines from what would logically be the closest end to the shack. Given the price of R

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That's a good question. :-) Maybe it has something to do with the tension each one will stand. I think that CW or plated steel fence wire will stand a lot more tensioning than coax. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Grant Saviers wrote: > I'm not sure why the bidirectional

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

as needed. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: "Mike Waters" To: "Grant Saviers" ; "topband" Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:41 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna That's a good question. :-) Maybe it has something to do with the te

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Thanks Mike, I already purchased a unidirectional match from Array Solutions so I'm going to go with that for now to the NE. My next beverage will be bidirectional to the NW and SE. That should do it. It makes sense. I picked up about 500ft of bailing wire at the local hardware store and w

Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

After recent night time thunder storm activity, two Beverage antennas lost some directivity. Termination resistors looked normal, but an ohmmeter checked reviled they had each gone hundreds of ohms higher. Replaced resistors and back to normal. 73 Bruce-K1FZ www.qsl.net/k1fz/bogantennanotes/

Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

Thanks for all the termination resistor replies. Will look for Ohmite OX and OY series resistors. The resistors I had were supposed to be Carbon composition, but must not have been. Will discard remaining ones. Thanks again, 73 Bruce-K1FZ _ Topband Reflector

Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7 MHz. (See: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9AtNpPfAOUMRDNsaXROMG1VUTg?usp=sharing ) I know SWR should not vary too much. However, some people are suggesting adjusting the terminat

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna

On 1/18/2011 1:50 PM, Ben Wasilauskas wrote: > Was wondering since the matching unit for the beverage is 9:1, would it be > possible to feed the antenna with 450 ohm ladder line directly? Would this > lessen the effectiveness of the beverage? > > Thanks, > > Ben, K4GHS > No problem as long as y

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

Dear Ben ! I would avoid using ladder line as a feed of the Beverage . The Ladder will work as a part of the antenna (will "receive" unwanted signals coming from others , different from the original diagram directions . ) That's why - coax, the only coax ..double shielded coax with a terminat

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

What kind of resistors are you using? They shouldn't do that if you use the right type. - Original Message - From: "Bruce" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:50 PM Subject: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations After recent night time thunder storm activit

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They were supposed to be non-inductive carbon, but need to find something better like carbon film. - Original Message - From: "Tom W8JI" To: "Bruce" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations What kind

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to find something > better like carbon film. > > > - Original Message - From: "Tom W8JI" > To: "Bruce" ; > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:55 PM > Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations > > > What kind of resistors are y

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They were supposed to be non-inductive carbon, but need to find something better like carbon film. Any resistor except a big wire wound is "non-inductive" on a low frequency like 160. What you want is a composition type resistor, either metal or carbon, to handle surges without changing va

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

On 9/24/2013 6:05 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: They were supposed to be non-inductive carbon, but need to find something better like carbon film. Any resistor except a big wire wound is "non-inductive" on a low frequency like 160. What you want is a composition type resistor, either metal or carb

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

Here you go: www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Ohmite/OY471KE I have never lost one of those to a nearby strike. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _ Topband Reflector

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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:46 PM To: Tom W8JI; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations They were supposed to be non-inductive carbon, but need to find something better like carbon film. - Original Message - From: "Tom W8JI" To: &

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

Cut one open and look at it. You can tell right away what they are. - Original Message - From: "Bruce" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:40 AM Subject: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations Thanks for all the termination resistor replies. Will look for Ohmite

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ing better like carbon film. - Original Message - From: "Tom W8JI" To: "Bruce" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations What kind of resistors are you using? They shouldn't do that if you use the right type.

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

> What shall I do? Nothing? What you measure should have no practical impact on performance. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-07-04 10:13 AM, Ashraf Chaabane wrote: Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7 MHz. (See: https:

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the time and tools available. 73 Mark, PA5MW -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of Ashraf Chaabane Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 4:13 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates

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pband On Behalf Of Ashraf > Chaabane > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 4:13 PM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning > > Hi All > > I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 > and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7

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ent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 4:40 PM To: pa...@home.nl Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Mark, I'm planning to have the termination value adjustment excercice for F/B maximisation using a BC station signal. However, does SWR measurement have to do also

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esday, July 04, 2018 9:13 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7 MHz. (See: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9AtNpPfAOUMRDNsaXROMG1VUTg?usp=shar in

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

y, July 4, 2018 2:13:27 PM Subject: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7 MHz. (See: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9AtNpPfAOUMRDNsaXROMG1VUTg?usp=sharing ) I know SWR should no

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Mark, I'm planning to have the termination value adjustment excercice for F/B maximisation using a BC station signal. However, does SWR measurement have to do also with the termination value? Or that's rather the matching transformer that I

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of pa...@home.nl Sent: Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2018 21:56 To: 'Ashraf Chaabane' Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Another question might be; how close by is this BC station or any other AM BCB stations? Please consider a HP BC stop

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ms (mostly youngsters). I hope we will be ready with strong 100W signals this winter! 73 from Tunisia Ash 3V8SS/KF5EYY www.kf5eyy.info -- Original Message -- From: donov...@starpower.net To: topband@contesting.com Cc: "Ashraf Chaabane" Sent: 04/07/2018 19:00:33 Subject: Re: Topba

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0W signals this winter! 73 from Tunisia Ash 3V8SS/KF5EYY www.kf5eyy.info -- Original Message -- From: donov...@starpower.net To: topband@contesting.com Cc: "Ashraf Chaabane" Sent: 04/07/2018 19:00:33 Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Hello Ash, Your results are

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winter! >> >>73 from Tunisia >> >>Ash 3V8SS/KF5EYY >>www.kf5eyy.info >> >> >> >>-- Original Message -- >>From: donov...@starpower.net >>To: topband@contesting.com >>Cc: "Ashraf Chaabane" >>Sent: 04/07/2018

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

On 7/4/2018 8:09 AM, pa...@home.nl wrote: Groundwave BC signals arrive at 0 degrees; you want to adjust FB at incoming skywave (10< >50 degrees) signals instead What reference you should use depends on your QTH and the first wave of incoming (Europe?) QRM I would like to respectfully disagre

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Good point Rick. But that zoomes-out the topic. What priorities does Ash' beverage need to cover, like: lowering local noise (groundwave) lowering incoming skywave noise; QRN and/or QRM the need to 'enable another layer of QSO contacts' etc. etc. Ash:  I am sure you have already read some gener

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

Guys Some concepts really belong to the last century, a beverage antenna is very inefficient for moderns days. Ground wave noise is very high everywhere and it is vertical polarized, any vertical polarized RX antenna will hear man made noise very well. The only really way to increase signal to

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

I find that my 600 to 1000 ft terminated beverages are quite capable. Clearly, if someone doesn't the room, then other options need to be explored. But the front to back ratio and SNR of my 1000 ft beverage to Europe is nothing short of amazing when it comes to hearing. Even with 1.5kW on 80 and

Topband: Beverage antenna isolation measurements

I have just finished installing 6 Beverage antennas in the woods north of my house. Details are below. My question to the group involves measuring the isolation of these antennas from my transmitting antennas. I am testing by transmitting on all bands with either 100 or 500 watts and simult

Topband: Beverage antenna in woods.

Here in mid-coast Maine, the big wet snow storm is starting to melt.  The East Beverage was not hearing 4T4TA well, and an inspection found breaks and multiple large branches on the wire. Two support poles were  also down under very large branches. Large branches here can have the diame

Topband: Beverage antenna analyzer video

The weather is good……. Here is another video showing how I use the antenna analyzer to take measurements of the Beverage antenna in the field: https://youtu.be/yiFW_u1CPrs Beverage theory is discussed, comparing the Beverage to a transmission line and calculating t

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna in woods.

an amazing receiving antenna I still have a few 580 foot Beverage backup antennas. "You can never have too many antennas" 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: k...@myfairpoint.net To: "Topband" Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 3:37:32 PM Subjec