Re: Topband: Beverage question

2016-12-05 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Mike, Running along close to a barbed wire fence, let's call that any wire-based or metal fence, will trash the performance in most cases. This includes an electric fence. If you are the owner or are in good relations with them the fence can be electrically broken up into non resonant (shorter

Topband: Beverage question

2016-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I am looking to supplement my RCV arrays with a bi directional Beverage at about 70 degrees. The path is along an existing barb wire fence line. I can run it approx 480 ft. The last 150 ft or so there is an overhead power line that feeds the adjacent property owner. I can run the beverage

Re: Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-21 Thread jeremy maris
The way I looked at it was that the equivalent diameter would be a bit less than twice the diameter of the wires plus the spacing. According to the Mil Spec for WD-1A/TT is 0.84mm diameter per conductor spaced 0.84mm (or perhaps 0.72mm if just twice sheath diameter. That gives around 2.5mm. T

Re: Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-21 Thread jeremy maris
I've just finished putting up a ~300m NE/SW reversible beverage at G4AQG using two pairs of paralleled WD1/TT wire for the feeder, spaced 50mm apart. I used nine 2.7m 3x3 posts with electric fence insulators on top. The posts are held in the ground with a metal fence post spike. The wire is se

Re: Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-20 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
No my mistake as the spacing of the two parallel conductors would determine the impedance but the mismatch from 600 ohms to 450 would also not be good. It wold be easier to get working IMHO with a single run of WD-1a and the proper feed and termination transformers. Perhaps Gary KD9SV would

Re: Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-20 Thread Carl
The way I understand is that you will be using the WD-1A as individual lines with each having its wires connected in parallel. Id start by calculating the resultant wire gauge such as say two #24 in parallel = a #21; I dont know what the fudge factor would be due to wire and jacket insulations

Re: Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-20 Thread MU 4CX250B
gt; David Harmon > K6XYZ > Sperry, OK > > -Original Message- > From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Herbert > Schoenbohm > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:34 AM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Question >

Re: Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-20 Thread MU 4CX250B
> Thanks for the info and suggestions, Herb. One additional question, > however. Are you certain the 100 ohm impedance of the WD – 1 pertains > to two parallel links of the wire, with 6 inch spacing? I know that > open wire feeders with 6 inch spacing typically have about 600 ohms of > impedance. >

Re: Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-20 Thread Tim Shoppa
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Re: Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-20 Thread David Harmon
pband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Herbert Schoenbohm Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:34 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Question Jim, The DXE boxes are designed for 450 ohm ladder line which has a much higher impedance than WD1-A wire. Using the DXE boxes ma

Re: Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-20 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
Jim, The DXE boxes are designed for 450 ohm ladder line which has a much higher impedance than WD1-A wire. Using the DXE boxes may work but Gary's boxes (KD9SV) will work better as they are designed for the 100 ohm impedance of WD-1A. I also understand that DXE may now sell the boxes designed

Topband: Beverage Question

2014-09-20 Thread Jim Garland
I want to replace the 450 ohm ladder line for my two DXE 720 ft long bi-directional beverages with two lengths of WD-1/TT field telephone wire. The wires will be secured only at the ends, but will be suported along their length by ceramic insulators mounted on 4x4 posts spaced every 60 ft. The spa

Re: Topband: Beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread Lennart M
: Re: Topband: Beverage question > So, how to measure the bev? Is this procedure correct: > The bev is ~8 feet above ground. The far end is open, not grounded, no > resistor. > The analyzer connects directly to the bev and the ground rod at the rx > end through its bnc-to-bana

Re: Topband: Beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread Tom W8JI
So, how to measure the bev? Is this procedure correct: The bev is ~8 feet above ground. The far end is open, not grounded, no resistor. The analyzer connects directly to the bev and the ground rod at the rx end through its bnc-to-banana plug adaptor . Measure and note the impedances for 160, 80

Topband: Beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread Martin
Topbanders, I didn´t make many qso´s on topband in the cq-ww, but the single wire beverage at DL0WH has proven efficiency. I was called by a few na-stations and called a few myself. Obviousely, the K2AV inv-L over an FCP and the bev combo worked fine. I mostly rxed with the bev. Just minutes af

Re: Topband: Beverage question final

2011-08-01 Thread Mike Waters
Hello Andrew, On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:33 AM, wrote: > I realize now that I had not understood the way that bidirectional > Beverages work ... > There's more than one way to switch directions. My Beverage antenna page completely explains it all. http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html H

Topband: Beverage question final

2011-07-31 Thread lissa
Hello and thanks for all the replies on the list and directly. I realize now that I had not understood the way that bidirectional Beverages work when they use only one coax. Perhaps there are others who have made or are making the same mistake so I will explain where I went wrong. I thought that

Re: Topband: Beverage question

2011-07-30 Thread Igor Gontcharenko
Hello Andrew, try to read http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&u=http://dl2kq.de/ant/3-24.htm 73 de DL2KQ 30.07.2011 17:02, li...@lissa.dk wrote: > Hello there, this is Andrew OZ5E, > > Our 4-directional Beverage (ladder line) works fine but sometimes we >

Re: Topband: Beverage question

2011-07-30 Thread Hardy Landskov
input. 73 Hardy N7RT - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 7:02 AM Subject: Topband: Beverage question > Hello there, this is Andrew OZ5E, > > Our 4-directional Beverage (ladder line) works fine but sometimes we > would like to be able to operate on 8

Re: Topband: Beverage question

2011-07-30 Thread Peter
li...@lissa.dk schreef: > Hello there, this is Andrew OZ5E, > > Our 4-directional Beverage (ladder line) works fine but sometimes we > would like to be able to operate on 80 and 160 at the same time from 2 > different stations on the same property. The easiest way would be to > use the same support

Topband: Beverage question

2011-07-30 Thread lissa
Hello there, this is Andrew OZ5E, Our 4-directional Beverage (ladder line) works fine but sometimes we would like to be able to operate on 80 and 160 at the same time from 2 different stations on the same property. The easiest way would be to use the same supports and run the ladder lines close to