Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-20 Thread Hardy Landskov
t now and get the flash light. 73 Hardy N7RT - Original Message - From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" To: Cc: "TopBand List" Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote: &g

Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-20 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Great idea Lee as I could do this from the shack without walking out in the bushes. Thanks, Herb, KV4FZ On 11/20/2011 4:02 PM, Lee K7TJR wrote: >It seems to me what your asking here is how much > crosstalk you would see between two Beverage > antennas. How about just using a signa

Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-20 Thread Lee K7TJR
It seems to me what your asking here is how much crosstalk you would see between two Beverage antennas. How about just using a signal source and exciting one beverage while listening on the other. This could be a most enlightening measurement not only for the ground rods but for the plac

Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote: > So the answer is a better ground on the Beverage ends may not buy you > muchbut could it hurt you? > I am looking for a db here or there which i > probably will never  see. IMHO the Beverage grounds, or lack thereof > probably has

Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-20 Thread ZR
- Original Message - From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" To: Cc: "TopBand List" Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:11 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods > On 11/19/2011 9:50 AM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote: >> Is there any cause for concern hoo

Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-20 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Rick, In my case all of my 12 Beverage feedlines come back to the 20 feet from the shack where they go through double 3 inch toriods to a single common ground between the center connection of those chokes. I am doing this hoping to avoid common mode noise pickup. In the ham shake the go to

Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 11/19/2011 9:50 AM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote: > Is there any cause for concern hooking two grounds together for separate > Beverages? I have a a single wire Beverage that runs 600 feet to the > East and and another that runs 600 feet to the West. The ground rods > are 6 feet apart. I use spider

Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-19 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
So the answer is a better ground on the Beverage ends may not buy you muchbut could it hurt you? The common mode issues I try to mitigate with 3inch toroids as I am told that is supposed to help. I could also wind some 1:1 isolation boxes.but the coupling between Beverages going in op

Re: Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-19 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I'd ask the question differently. If you have "before" data, and can remeasure after you hook them together to get some "after" data, and you are trying to advance science, go for it. But otherwise begin from "if it ain't broke don't fix it." What is wrong, and what do you KNOW you stand to gain

Topband: Daisey Chained ground rods

2011-11-19 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Is there any cause for concern hooking two grounds together for separate Beverages? I have a a single wire Beverage that runs 600 feet to the East and and another that runs 600 feet to the West. The ground rods are 6 feet apart. I use spiders on both 4x 30' and earth is moderate to good con