Re: Topband: FT8 on 160m

2017-11-28 Thread Gary Smith
To me, the issue comes down to contained or not contained when it comes to signals on the bands. We're already contained by the limits of the band itself so there's effectively a finite space for everyone and if FT8 or RTTY or XYZ wanted to and was allowed to be everywhere, the QRM would be

Re: Topband: FT8 on 160m

2017-11-27 Thread Victor Goncharsky via Topband
http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php/downloads/func-startdown/718/   IARU Region 1 160m Band plan: 1810 - 1838 200 CW,1836 kHz – QRP Centre of Activity 1838 - 1840 500 Narrow band modes 1840 - 1843 2700 All modes – digimodes, (*) 1843 - 2000 2700 All modes, (*) There's no exclusive frequency for FT8

Re: Topband: FT8 on 160m

2017-11-27 Thread Grant Saviers
My WSTJ waterfall shows about 50Hz bandwidth for ft8 signals. In "band plan" theory the ft8 segment is 1840 to 1842.5. However, many rigs won't pass audio much below 300Hz and may not above 2.5KHz. I run "wide open" DSP on my Pro3 so see to 3Khz. Above 2.6Khz there are few ft8 signals to

Re: Topband: FT8 on 160m

2017-11-27 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
The normal bandwidth for FT8 is 2.5 to 2.8 kc.  at 1.842.9 you should have been outside the FT8 band.  Hardly anyone operates above 2.5 it seems anyway.  I think you  were essentially being trolled.  I suppose you could have been pretty wide for a local or close in station wiping out a fair

Re: Topband: FT8 on 160m

2017-11-27 Thread Tim Shoppa
As a practical matter there are several 2 kHZ segments of each band that are now devoted to 24x7 JT65, FT8, and other digital modes. Weak signal CW work - eg working rare mults or even just weak guys from common mults - in those segments just isn’t gonna happen. Substantial parts of 80M and

Topband: FT8 on 160m

2017-11-27 Thread Roger Parsons via Topband
As we all know, CQWW produces huge activity on all HF bands. This year I was hearing stations up to well above 1850kHz. I have found that trying to run Europe is often more productive in the 1840-1850 segment, presumably because it is less crowded than lower in frequency. Late in the contest