All this talk about beverages makes me thirsty. Thats, for 160M DX.
I use to rag chew on CW,use to run CW nets back in the day. If the guy is
calling CQ DX I sit and listen to see what is drummed up. He is paying for the
electric bill not me. Besides chances are he has a better antenna that I
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:20:02 -0500
chacuff chac...@cableone.net wrote:
QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other
stations
do.
Don't QRPers work other QRPers?
George, AA7JV
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During the summer the storm static is the main obstacle to top band operation
here 40 over nine crashes every 30 seconds kind of drown out everything, QRP
or QRO
In fact the fish beacons still come through around sunrise indicating that
propagation paths are open but SWLing them is not that
Only if they have space for them.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM, K4OWR k2...@comcast.net wrote:
When I switch to my beverage antenna the noise pretty much goes to
almost nothing.
Don't most serious operators have oneor more???
BILL K4OWR
On 3/19/2012 10:22 AM, N7DF wrote:
If your summer storm static pretty much goes to almost nothing on your
Beverages, you certainly have better Beverages than I do!
I have heard it said that the summer static on a BOG can be less than on an
elevated Beverage. Any thoughts?
73, Mike
http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html
On
Original message
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 07:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: N7DF n...@yahoo.com
Subject: Topband: It is not so much propagation
To: 160 reflector topband@contesting.com
During the summer the storm static is the main obstacle to top band operation
here 40 over nine crashes every
N7DF said
Maybe we could get some low power 160 meter beacons operating through the
summer to see what is really happening
WSPR has been doing exactly that for years - over the last 24hrs there were 15
US,
36 EU and 5 VK stations active on 160. Activity tends to drop off as the summer
, 19 Mar 2012 07:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: N7DF n...@yahoo.com
Subject: Topband: It is not so much propagation
To: 160 reflector topband@contesting.com
During the summer the storm static is the main obstacle to top band operation
here 40 over nine crashes every 30 seconds kind of drown out
...@yahoo.com
Subject: Topband: It is not so much propagation
To: 160 reflector topband@contesting.com
During the summer the storm static is the main obstacle to top band
operation here 40 over nine crashes every 30 seconds kind of drown out
everything, QRP or QRO
In fact the fish beacons still
. K9JWV
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 10:18:38 -0600
From: telegraph...@gmail.com
To: donov...@starpower.net
CC: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
To me top band seems to be all about DXing. I can find plenty of if folks
calling CQ DX but I don't hear
-Original Message-
From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of K4OWR
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:00 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
When I switch to my beverage antenna the noise pretty much goes
On 2012-03-19, at 12:18 PM, DAVID CUTHBERT wrote:
To me top band seems to be all about DXing. I can find plenty of if folks
calling CQ DX but I don't hear many folks calling just plain CQ.
Hi Dave,
I do here...!
But the trend for CQ DX calls is so common, if I am invariably spotted, more
Beverages do NOT make lightning caused static crashes go away. They can
significantly reduce the received level of the crashes from the directions
different from the listening direction.
However, in the listening direction Beverages will actually clear up the
crashes being heard from that
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From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of K4OWR
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:00 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
When I switch to my beverage antenna the noise pretty much
...@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of K4OWR
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:00 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
When I switch to my beverage antenna the noise pretty much goes to
almost nothing.
Don't most serious operators have oneor more???
BILL K4OWR
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Milt -- N5IA n...@zia-connection.comwrote:
4. There is NO substitute for acreage.
True. But I've heard that a 150' Slinky Beverage can do nearly as well as a
580' Beverage. If I didn't have 10 acres, I would either try a Slinky or a
BOG.
73, Mike
,
de Milt, N5IA
-Original Message-
From: Mike Waters
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:29 PM
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Milt -- N5IA
n...@zia-connection.comwrote:
4. There is NO substitute for acreage.
True. But I've
PM
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
THAT's my point, Dave! Don't need to have looong winded QSOs but just
calling CQ and meeting up with others to find out what antenna system they
employ? That would make my day!
Hope to hear you and work you - will be on later
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:27 PM
To: 'topband'
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
4. There is NO substitute for acreage.
Well, I need to disagree, I worked 257 new ones on 160m in the last 5 years
from my city lot in Ft Lauderdale using a pair of Waller Flags, one vertical
-connection.com wrote:
From: Milt -- N5IA n...@zia-connection.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
To:
Cc: Topband@contesting.com
Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 2:23 PM
Beverages do NOT make lightning
caused static crashes go away. They can
significantly reduce the received level
: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
Thats what SSB up the band is for.
Why cover up the very narrow DX window with chatter just because YOU cant
hear it?
Carl
KM1H
- Original Message -
From: James Rodenkirch rodenkirch_...@msn.com
To: telegraph...@gmail.com
Cc
Oh, I got that one, right away, Jim! Smiling...
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:55:11 -0700
From: j_fit...@yahoo.com
To: n...@zia-connection.com
CC: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other
On 3/19/2012 1:56 PM, wb6r...@mac.com wrote:
Since Dec '99, my own stats are 196 DXCC from a 1/7 acre West Coast city lot
or 1372 per acre. If I had room for 160m RX arrays, I know my total would be
higher by perhaps 25 or so. There are very few West of the Rockies that have
cracked that
If I had room for 160m RX arrays
Hi Steve
Congratulations for 1/7 acre you are a winner QRM fighter. May be you have
room, one issue with RX arrays is how to reduce the noise and increase the
signal noise ratio, the only answer is RDF or directivity. The second and
common unknown issue is the
That makes absolutely no sense when at the edge of reception.
Carl
KM1H
- Original Message -
From: Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com
To: Milt -- N5IA n...@zia-connection.com
Cc: Topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com wrote:
QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other stations do. Think
about that one for awhile.
People using Beverages actually would need much more than the legal limit
to work everyone they hear. Think about that for
CC: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
Thats what SSB up the band is for.
Why cover up the very narrow DX window with chatter just because YOU cant
hear it?
Carl
KM1H
- Original Message -
From: James
, March 19, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other stations
do.
Think about that one for awhile.
jim / W1FMR
--- On Mon, 3/19/12, Milt -- N5IA n...@zia-connection.com wrote:
From: Milt -- N5IA n
...@zia-connection.com
To: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com; topband topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
Mike,
I beg to differ, but only with your definition of can do nearly as well.
In terms of quiet reception, yes
I don't think that's what Jim F. is/was alluding to
From: robert.chor...@berliner.com
To: z...@jeremy.mv.com
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:44:13 -0700
CC: j_fit...@yahoo.com; Topband@contesting.com; n...@zia-connection.com
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
I think
need a Beverage? hearing a station just above the noise?
there is a VE3 i hear at 0200z at 559 and have to wait until 1000z when
he is 589, in order to work him.
you guys who never work QRP, when is the last time you have called the
same station 200 times in a CQWW contest? and never work
: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other stations
do.
Think about that one for awhile.
jim / W1FMR
--- On Mon, 3/19/12, Milt -- N5IA n...@zia-connection.com wrote:
From: Milt -- N5IA n
On 03/19/2012 06:46 PM, ZR wrote:
A 175' run of 5 Slinkys will have about the same directivity as a 550' or so
Beverage, a bit better SNR and still enough signal to not need a preamp most
of the time.
Its still a Beverage.
Statement based upon years of use. YMMV
A beverage works because
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