Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting com

2015-01-14 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
The 1026 has a built in pre-amp which may be helpful. The built in antenna is easily removed by just unscrewing it from the feed through, or not putting it on in the first place when you open the box. Herb, KV4FZ On 1/15/2015 1:20 AM, Mike Waters wrote: I meant to say MFJ-1025, not 1026.

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting com

2015-01-14 Thread Mike Waters
I meant to say MFJ-1025, not 1026. The 1026 has a built-in sense antenna sticking out of the cover, IIRC. What is really needed --unless the noise is right in your shack-- is a separate antenna that picks up the unwanted noise MUCH better than the one built-in to the 1026. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - aninteresting com

2015-01-12 Thread Tom W8JI
independently set level and phase for each sense antenna. - Original Message - From: "Rob Atkinson" To: Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - aninteresting com >1. I can see the case for an array of loops. Howe

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting com

2015-01-12 Thread Rob Atkinson
>1. I can see the case for an array of loops. However, wouldn't it be less >time-consuming --not to mention less expensive-- to just get an additional >MFJ-1026 to effectively null the second noise source? Null out one noise in >the first 1026, and then null out the second noise source in the secon

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/8/2015 12:12 PM, JC wrote: I am going to try to get a horizontal loop aimed at 70 degrees up < Hi Rick It is not recommended to tilt and elevate the loop. There is two reasons it Clarification: 70 degrees refers to the AZIMUTH that the loop will be aimed for. It will still be in a h

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread JC
-Original Message- From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist [mailto:rich...@karlquist.com] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:36 PM To: JC; 'topband' Subject: Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas On 1/8/2015 5:36 AM, JC wrote: > > &q

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/8/2015 5:36 AM, JC wrote: "An array of loops is two loops for two directions. Hi guys The simple solution that is working very well since 2009 is the HWF. Why not two horizontal loaded loops end-fire. Two identical horizontal loops see the ground wave signal at the same way Va=Vb and

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting com

2015-01-08 Thread Doug Waller
G/E Guys, All subdivision Top Banders need an effective, highly directional receive antenna that is minimally affected by local wires and metal, has side and rear nulls to take care of interfering directional noises, may be mounted adjacent to xmit towers and power lines, and rotated in a sma

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread JC
Hi Guys I uploaded the video on YouTube on this link, DropBox is not working. http://youtu.be/dNBekvzlxgM Hi guys The simple solution that is working very well since 2009 is the HWF. Why not two horizontal loaded loops end-fire. Two identical horizontal loops see the ground wave signal

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread JC
"An array of loops is two loops for two directions. Hi guys The simple solution that is working very well since 2009 is the HWF. Why not two horizontal loaded loops end-fire. Two identical horizontal loops see the ground wave signal at the same way Va=Vb and because the 180 degree out of ph

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-07 Thread Tom W8JI
1. I can see the case for an array of loops. However, wouldn't it be less time-consuming --not to mention less expensive-- to just get an additional MFJ-1026 to effectively null the second noise source? Null out one noise in the first 1026, and then null out the second noise source in the secon

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-07 Thread Mike Waters
A couple of thoughts here, good or bad: 1. I can see the case for an array of loops. However, wouldn't it be less time-consuming --not to mention less expensive-- to just get an additional MFJ-1026 to effectively null the second noise source? Null out one noise in the first 1026, and then null out

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-07 Thread Tom W8JI
: "Lloyd Berg - N9LB" To: Cc: "Tom W8JI" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 8:11 AM Subject: RE: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas Thanks for the input. Yes, utilities are underground, located by the road - north side

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-07 Thread Lloyd Berg - N9LB
-boun...@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Tom W8JI Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 5:58 PM To: Lloyd Berg N9LB; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - aninteresting combination of ideas > Finding a single RX antenna system that nulls the neighbor noise sources > at

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-07 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
On 1/6/2015 7:57 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: "but it would be much more simple to build a directive antenna with deep nulls to the sides" This is what I would like to trybut what are the best antennas for maximum side lobe rejection. I have looked at the charts so far and see F/B and gain express

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-06 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
I have a strong source of 160 meter IX from another ham about a mile away at a bearing 330 degrees. The key clix and pumping of the noise floor make weak signal reception a real challenge at times. By using my 40 degree Beverage and a 3Khz roofing filter, along with turning the pre-amps off an

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-06 Thread Tom W8JI
Finding a single RX antenna system that nulls the neighbor noise sources at 90 and 270 degrees is proving to be a challenge. If the noise sources are really at 90 and 270, and you have 30 feet or more for spacing at right angles to that, it should be fairly simple. Use a 180 degree out-of-phas

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-06 Thread Lloyd Berg N9LB
I have received many suggestions and ideas on this subject. Finding a single RX antenna system that nulls the neighbor noise sources at 90 and 270 degrees is proving to be a challenge. Greg has offered an interesting idea that would integrate noise canceling/nulling technology with a traditio

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice

2015-01-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,1/4/2015 10:03 AM, Lloyd Berg - N9LB wrote: I have read and re-read the recently posted 160m RX antenna information presented on the Top Band Reflector and am sold on building a separate low band receive antenna system in my front yard that is away from my TX towers in the back yard. One

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice

2015-01-04 Thread Dan Maguire via Topband
IV3PRK has several interesting papers available as links from this page http://www.iv3prk.it/TX3A-DHDL.htm including one which compares both a single DHDL and a dual DHDL with a Waller Flag. Dan, AC6LA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice

2015-01-04 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/4/2015 10:03 AM, Lloyd Berg - N9LB wrote: I have read and re-read the recently posted 160m RX antenna information presented on the Top Band Reflector and am sold on building a separate low band receive antenna system in my front yard that is away from my TX towers in the back yard. I am w

Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice

2015-01-04 Thread Lloyd Berg - N9LB
I have read and re-read the recently posted 160m RX antenna information presented on the Top Band Reflector and am sold on building a separate low band receive antenna system in my front yard that is away from my TX towers in the back yard. I am wondering if anyone is willing to give me input on m