Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread Dave Cuthbert
David, the capacity hat does cancel some radiation. Think of RF current going up the mast and down the top hat wires. The magnetic fields partially cancel. Without the capacity hat wires the 55' mast exhibits a radiation resistance of ~5 ohms. With the capacity hat it is also ~5 ohms. So,

Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/5/2020 5:37 AM, David Aslin G3WGN wrote: I note that the capacity hat extends to a significant distance down the vertical section. It's my understanding that will shield some of the radiation from the upper part of the vertical. Yes and no. The sloping hat reduces the effective height,

Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread Dave Cuthbert
I refined the DX Engineering Thunderbolt EZNEC model to be exactly like the actual antennat by changing the capacity hat wire size. It is resonant at 1930kHz. 2.15uH of series inductance tunes it to 1820kHz where the input impedance is 4.8 ohms. GND + coil loss of 3.2 ohms gives the claimed DX

Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I have one of the DXE 80m verticals and it is great.  The ability to crank up and down is nice, although I have never taken it down since I put it up.  The thing is a tank! I have an inverted L for 160 so I never considered using it on 160. W0MU On 12/5/2020 11:26 AM, MU 4CX250B wrote: Hi

Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread MU 4CX250B
Hi David, I live in a windy area with 100km frequent wind gusts in the spring. I bought a DXE heavy duty 80m self-supporting tilt-over vertical on the advice of a professional tower guy. It was expensive and the assembly took a couple of days, but the result was worth it. It seemed built to

Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread Dave Cuthbert
The DX Engineering Thunderbolt antenna includes a means to resonate and match the antenna using a series inductor and a shunt inductor. *It does not require a balun*. See the manual: https://static.dxengineering.com/global/images/instructions/dxe-160va-1_jj.pdf An EZNEC model shows it to be

Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread Wes
Or reduce the loading to present a capacitive reactance at the feedpoint and shunt it with an inductor.  Functions as a step up L-network and presents a ground at DC.  That's what I do here. Wes  N7WS On 12/5/2020 7:35 AM, Rudy Bakalov via Topband wrote:  P.S. If your vertical has a good

Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread Rudy Bakalov via Topband
 P.S. If your vertical has a good set of radials, you will see about 35 Ohm feedpoint impedance. You may want to wind your own unun using Jerry Sevick’s cookbook http://www.introni.it/pdf/Amidon%20-%20Transmission%20Line%20Transformers%20Handbook.pdf or buy a readymade 35 to 50 Ohm unun from

Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread Rudy Bakalov via Topband
David, Are you thinking of buying from DXE and importing? If yes, you may as well consider buying the aluminum from them and build the vertical exactly the way you want it. This is what we did at HQ9X for the 160, 80, and 40 meter verticals. Rudy N2WQ Sent using a tiny keyboard. Please

Re: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread clive
: Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical I'm building a contest station and the time has come to make a choice of 160m TX antenna. Looking at DXE Thunderbolt I note that the capacity hat extends to a significant distance down the vertical section. It's my

Topband: Looking for user experience: DXEngineering Thunderbolt 160m vertical

2020-12-05 Thread David Aslin G3WGN
I'm building a contest station and the time has come to make a choice of 160m TX antenna. Looking at DXE Thunderbolt I note that the capacity hat extends to a significant distance down the vertical section. It's my understanding that will shield some of the radiation from the upper part of the