Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-07-06 Thread W2PM
I'm done with external drives and now use cloud based backup services. Never worry now about the timelinness and availability of the backups. Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2012, at 8:18, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote: I was distracted for a week trying to recover a lost disk but I put the SSD

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-07-06 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 07:38 -0400, W2PM wrote: I'm done with external drives and now use cloud based backup services. Never worry now about the timelinness and availability of the backups. Sent from my iPad Hi, I can't get past the fact that in the cloud I would be entrusting complete

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-07-06 Thread Bob K6UJ
I'm with Bill, I still use external drives for backups for the same reason, but am tempted with the cloud Maybe our worries are unfounded ? Do the cloud systems back up the data (on external hard drives, :-) ? Bob K6UJ On Jul 6, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote: On Fri,

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise! off topic material moved off list

2012-07-06 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi, I have moved comments with interested people regarding backups and clouds, etc off list. I got into this thread because I too was getting intolerable interference form a desktop computer power supply. All the rest moved quickly off topic. On another note, I have had an opportunity to sniff

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-07-06 Thread Mike Waters
I don't know about you, but we have data that is far too important not to make multiple backup copies ourselves. Think about whether you are willing to take a of risk losing it all because the cloud had a glitch or closed their doors. A large cloud service corporation has made news headlines more

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-27 Thread Greg Chartrand
-0400 From: Pete Smith N4ZR n...@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise! To: topband@contesting.com Message-ID: 4fe99f6f.2060...@contesting.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Don't be too quick to give up on the idea of solid state drives

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-27 Thread Shoppa, Tim
I then unplugged the power to the SSD and the garbage was still there. So I conclude that its my motherboard making the garbage when I boot using the SSD!? SSD's draw substantially less power than a mechanical/rotating hard drive. All mechanical drives draw off the +12V rail; SSD's generally

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-27 Thread Greg Chartrand
Several persons asked about the power supply I use. you can look/purchase it at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GK0Y1U/ref=wms_ohs_product Greg ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-27 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 16:46 -0700, Greg Chartrand wrote: Several persons asked about the power supply I use. you can look/purchase it at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GK0Y1U/ref=wms_ohs_product Greg ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB -

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-26 Thread Greg Chartrand
Last month I began a computer up-grade process at home and work by using solid state drives (SSD) in both laptop and desktop systems. The upgrades have been very successful providing a significant performance increase and extended battery life.   The last upgrade was my ham shack desktop system

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-26 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Don't be too quick to give up on the idea of solid state drives, Greg. I know several active hams who have had these installed for some time without any of the problems you experienced. There's no logical reason why these drives should be any more or less noisy than any other memory in your

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-26 Thread Tom W8JI
I was distracted for a week trying to recover a lost disk but I put the SSD in place again yesterday. This time I wrapped the SSD in aluminium foil and put 2 clamp on cores on the SATA cable. I fired up my system, and the extra measures had no noticeable improvement on the birdie situation. The

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/26/2012 5:18 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: I'm not a big fan of throwing beads at noise issues, or wrapping things. Usually that isn't a good solution. Running a series of tests to locate the point of leakage is usually faster and better. Most RF noise escapes from equipment as current flowing on

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-26 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley
Greg — Your aluminum foil fix possibly eliminates direct radiation (from the SSD) as the noise source, but says nothing about conducted noise from the power cord (or other cables going in and out) of the desktop system. If SSDs impose totally different current (pulse) requirements on the

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-26 Thread Tom W8JI
I'm not disagreeing with anyone, but it is important to re-enforce how things really behave and what actually causes problems. Most RF noise escapes from equipment as current flowing on wiring, either inside the box due to inadequate shielding and/or poor circuit layout, and on external

Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-06-26 Thread Tom Sneden, K6VCR
: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise! Last month I began a computer up-grade process at home and work by using solid state drives (SSD) in both laptop and desktop systems. The upgrades have been very successful providing a significant performance increase and extended battery life. The last upgrade