No need for it to be a mystery. The NISTweb site has the WWV, WWVB, and
WWVH info is accessible from here:
https://www.nist.gov/pml/time-and-frequency-division/radio-stations
Specific info on WWVB is here:
https://www.nist.gov/pml/time-and-frequency-division/radio-stations/wwvb
Gus Hansen
KB0
...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Richard
(Rick) Karlquist
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 4:08 PM
To: wesattaway; Don Kirk; jim.t...@telus.net
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
On 8/25/2018 1:59 PM, wesattaway wrote:
> Half the clocks in our house check WWW every ni
On 8/25/2018 1:59 PM, wesattaway wrote:
Half the clocks in our house check WWW every night.
WWW?
More likely they check WWVB. I know mine do.
Rick N6RK
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2:55 PM (GMT-06:00) To: jim.t...@telus.net Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
Hi Jim,
You said "The accuracy of both devices far exceeds my needs", but let me
play the devils advocate. Unless you send those devices into an accredited
lab on a regular basis,
it which is good reading and it partially supports some of my
comments, but not totally.
https://ws680.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=842479
Don (wd8dsb)
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:33 PM Jim Thomson wrote:
> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:49:49 -0400
> From: "Paul Christensen"
rday, August 25, 2018 12:33 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:49:49 -0400
From: "Paul Christensen"
To:
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
http://www.contesting.com/_topband
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:49:49 -0400
From: "Paul Christensen"
To:
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Bingo. Just like "government shutdowns" where they close Grand Canyon or
Yellowstone NPs. Maximize the pain for the general public so we scream.
N7WS
On 8/24/2018 5:21 AM, Brian Pease wrote:
It seems to me that this may be similar to the time when the Government
threatened to cut the VHF weat
on Kirk
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:10 AM
To: HP
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
Hi Hank,
The 60 kHz transmissions are done by WWVB. No mention of WWVB being
impacted by the new budget proposal.
Just FYI, and 73.
Don (wd8dsb)
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 1:0
a pet
project they do know about.
Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln
From: Topband on behalf of Don Kirk
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:10 AM
To: HP
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: T
o the contrary, I *do* 'get it', and would sorely
miss all those NIST services here. I guess some in our group fancy
themselves mind readers? (grin)
73, David K3KY
> Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
> From: "Paul Christe
about.
Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln
From: Topband on behalf of Don Kirk
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:10 AM
To: HP
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
>"The cost savings they are talking about amounts to very little. It would
>cost a helluva lot more to dismantle them completely. Besides TIME and freq
>standards, WWV provides for a myriad of other features."
Seems like a great opportunity to spin-off WWV/WWVB to one of Colorado's stat
: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 03:17:57 +
From: Charles Moizeau
To: "k...@radioprism.com" , Topband
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
## David does not ..get it. WWV et all is both a Time AND Freq
station. I use the 20 mhz WWV to align the TCXOs in all 4 of my yaesu
NIST budget is 750 million, the budget committee is increasing the
years budget to
them by 125 million, 100 anniversary celebration coming,
I dont think there is any danger of them going off the air for some time.
Some folks have commented on WWV's
minuscule operating expense when compared
>Some folks have commented on WWV's
>minuscule operating expense when compared to the total federal budget, but
>the problem with that thinking is we have thousands of federal programs and
>departmental budgets that also contribute just a tiny fraction to federal
>expense. Collectively, it adds up
W3LPL
- Original Message -
From: "Don Kirk"
To: "HP"
Cc: "topband"
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 10:10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
Hi Hank,
The 60 kHz transmissions are done by WWVB. No mention of WWVB being
impacted by
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 03:17:57 +
From: Charles Moizeau
To: "k...@radioprism.com" , Topband
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
## David does not ..get it. WWV et all is both a Time AND Freq
station.I use the 20 mhz WWV to align the TCXOs in all 4 o
"NIST will discontinue the dissemination of the U.S. time and frequency via
the NIST radio stations in Hawaii and Ft. Collins, CO. These radio stations
transmit signals that are used to synchronize consumer electronic products
like wall clocks, clock radios, and wristwatches, and may be used in ot
On 8/22/2018 3:10 AM, Don Kirk wrote:
Hi Hank,
The 60 kHz transmissions are done by WWVB. No mention of WWVB being
impacted by the new budget proposal.
Don (wd8dsb)
This is an exact quote from page NIST-25 of the proposed FY2019 NIST budget:
"NIST will discontinue the disseminatio
Hi Hank,
The 60 kHz transmissions are done by WWVB. No mention of WWVB being
impacted by the new budget proposal.
Just FYI, and 73.
Don (wd8dsb)
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 1:02 AM, HP wrote:
> Seems to me the people who should be screaming bloody murder are all the
> millions with watches and
Seems to me the people who should be screaming bloody murder are all the
millions with watches and clocks
that correct using the 60 kHz transmissions . Most of those millions probably
know absolutely nothing about this .
How do you reach them ?
Hank K7HP
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To me it's a no-brainer. We need to speak
up. We have to let others know what is
happening. I posted this to this list, it
was first on the Elecraft list so I
brought it to the attention to us on this
list. Others if you care about what
closing WWV means, should do the same or
the message wi
Thanks, Dave!
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 8:35 PM Dave Bowker wrote:
> Mike,
>
> WWV/WWVH is a dying/dead 20th century service.
>
> I've had my HP lab equipment (freq counter(s), sig gen(s), spectrum
> analyzer/tracking gen, etc.) *[and my TT OMNI VI+ xcvr]* locked to a GPS
>
I fully agree, Don! But that's not what I was asking, sir.
*Are there other existing alternatives? *What about CHU?
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 8:40 PM Don Kirk wrote:
> And what do you compare your fancy GPSDO or rubidium reference standard to
> in order to make sure they ha
> And what do you compare your fancy GPSDO or rubidium reference standard to
in order to make sure they have not encountered a major
> failure?
Several options: (1) CHU is still operating on several HF frequencies that
reasonably cover North America; (2) In the U.S., AM broadcast stations are
I sold my GPS time base and replaced itbwith a $75 surplus rubidium
standard I bought on eBay. They're smaller than a paperback book. I
had to add a power supply and enclosure, but it works great, outputs a
stabilized 10MZhz output.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 21, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Don Kirk wro
And what do you compare your fancy GPSDO or rubidium reference standard to
in order to make sure they have not encountered a major failure? I
personally think the frequency reference standard WWV provides which is
directly traceable back to NIST is much more valuable than the other info
it provide
Let's just say that WWV has ceased broadcasting. Aside from expensive
solutions using GPS or buying our very own atomic clocks, *how are we going
to calibrate our transceivers and frequency counters*?
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Anyone who doesn't want WWV and its sister stations to close down needs to
SPEAK UP NOW. Sometimes bureaucrats and politicians faced with demands to
shrink their budgets propose things for elimination precisely because they know
there's a constituency that will complain loudly and then the clo
day, August 19, 2018 9:23 PM
To: Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: OT - US Hams, WWV closure
Oooh- here's the deal with that- Although I totally agree with the
intent of the petition, and would otherwise add my name to it,
I have several problems with this:
Please note, I DO NOT intend t
Oooh- here's the deal with that- Although I totally agree with the
intent of the petition, and would otherwise add my name to it,
I have several problems with this:
Please note, I DO NOT intend to stir up any political discussion
here!
(1.) 100,000 valid entries is indeed a massively uphill battl
Apparently in a cost saving measure WWV
is/may well be on the chopping block. I'm
pasting a message below with the details.
I added the tinyurl link for those who
don't like copying and pasting an entire
link. I signed the online white house
petition.
73,
Gary
KA1J
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