Re: Topband: Shortened Radial Experiments

2017-10-27 Thread George Taft via Topband
As a practical application, the "Battle Creek Special" is configured with shortened radicals; 30 X 60' for mni years now.   It's success is well known. We found, that when 1/4 wvl radials were furnished, DXpeditions often did not have space for deployment.  And used only a few of the radials

Re: Topband: Shortened Radial Experiments

2017-10-26 Thread Michael Walker
In my case I have lots of space and I can lay down radials or do elevated. My vertical part is about 85ft and the rest is horizontal. It has served me well enough, but I honestly thing it could do much better and that is why I ask. My problem is I don't know how on this list truly knows what

Re: Topband: Shortened Radial Experiments

2017-10-26 Thread Mike Waters
Elevated radials can also be run zigzag to fit them in the available space. My 1/4 wavelength S radial was like that. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: Shortened Radial Experiments

2017-10-26 Thread k8...@alphacomm.net
Jeez Carl, If you had read my write-up, you would realize that I NEVER recommended 2 radials for operatingjust as a simple technique to measure resonant radial length in one's soil Also, the point is NOT that everyone should use shortened radials. The point IS that for hams with the

Re: Topband: Shortened Radial Experiments

2017-10-26 Thread Wes Stewart
No need to do it on my account. On 10/26/2017 6:31 AM, k8...@alphacomm.net wrote: This issue does indeed keep coming up, so  I am posting my response (of 3 years ago) again for K7EG, N7WS, VA3MVW, W0MU, and others.  N7WS _ Topband Reflector Archives -

Re: Topband: Shortened Radial Experiments

2017-10-26 Thread Michael Walker
Thanks, I need to digest this. mike va3mw On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:31 AM, k8...@alphacomm.net wrote: > This issue does indeed keep coming up, so I am posting my response (of 3 > years ago) again for K7EG, N7WS, VA3MVW, W0MU, and others. The shortened > radials are still

Topband: Shortened Radial Experiments

2017-10-26 Thread k8...@alphacomm.net
This issue does indeed keep coming up, so  I am posting my response (of 3 years ago) again for K7EG, N7WS, VA3MVW, W0MU, and others. The shortened radials are still in use here, with 235 countries worked on 160.  The Vp shortening depends entirely on soil type, so math will only get you so