Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-20 Thread Tom W8JI
> This is not encouraging news for those of us with towers already ground > and are either shunt fed or cage fed. Shunt fed towers can be detuned, or taken out of the picture by phasing a small sample of signals into the RX antenna. > I could try a motor driven inductor or capacitor (small) jus

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-20 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Great idea Pete but I also may run head long into false positive results with so many Beverages (12) and each with a different possible indications. Here with the masking over of any subtle changes by strong ever present boiling tropical QRN yielding a possible infinite number of variables,

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
If one's tower does not have radials, is set in concrete, with minimal direct contact with earth (say less than a linear foot, with nothing more than the usual lightning treatment attached to the base, then the base connection is likely rather resistive RF, and strictly by itself the tower is a fai

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-20 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Doesn't this suggest that there is a role here for cut and try? Take a set of clip leads to the base of the tower and experiment? 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.c

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-20 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Tom, This is not encouraging news for those of us with towers already ground and are either shunt fed or cage fed. Even though they are not resonate, although top loaded and approaching resonance, it seems that even with some elaborate decoupling arrangements, and I hope I am wrong, not to m

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-20 Thread Tom W8JI
get too much > signal into the front end of the rig (K3). > > Just let the DX know you are in NM and they will come calling :) I grew > up in Hobbs, NM and it worked. > > 73, Mike > > From: Jim Koshmider > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:09 PM > To: mikefur...@a

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-20 Thread mikefurrey
are in NM and they will come calling :) I grew up in Hobbs, NM and it worked. 73, Mike From: Jim Koshmider Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:09 PM To: mikefur...@att.net Subject: Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING Outstanding job, Mike...! It's encouraging to hear about

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-18 Thread mikefurrey
WA5POK -Original Message- From: W2PM Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 5:50 AM To: Bill and Liz Cc: Subject: Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING Do you have much noise in the first place to reradiate? Line noise also is very spotty along a power line - along the same line of wires any nasty a

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-18 Thread W2PM
Do you have much noise in the first place to reradiate? Line noise also is very spotty along a power line - along the same line of wires any nasty arcing noise can be very strong or very weak at certain spots so the noise level - if you have noise - may not be strong enough to reradiate with any

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-17 Thread N4IS
Hi Bill The resonance element reradiate noise and also the signal. If you think about why a yagi works, all elements reradiate the signal from the driven elements, but what about on reception, . It is the same. All resonate elements reradiate. Any resonant structure does the same. Here detuning t

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-17 Thread ZR
Sounds like a 1/4 wave vertical to me if its toploaded enough to resonate. Do the radials pass over or under the Beverage? Carl KM1H Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: "W2XJ" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING >

Re: Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-17 Thread W2XJ
Probably part has to do with the fact that your vertical is 1/8 wavelength and rule of thumb is 1/8 wavelength or less do no have a significant influence unless extremely close. On 6/17/12 5:34 PM, Bill and Liz wrote: > I have been following the thread with interest. I have a K9AY and a DO loop

Topband: TX ANT TO RX ANT COUPLING

2012-06-17 Thread Bill and Liz
I have been following the thread with interest. I have a K9AY and a DO loop located within 60 to 75 ft of the TX vertical at our summer home. Interestingly, I find both these antennas very quiet with no sign of noise being coupled to them via the TX antenna. I work a lot of DX from this locat