Re: Topband: Using CAT5 in place of coax (was video baluns)

2012-05-08 Thread ZR
I didnt say at the same feedpoint; each CAT5 pair is a seperate feed and then you seperate the actual antenna ends and ground rods the 30-40' as suggested. Thats what I do here and there is a minimum of 30' between each antenna and the relay box. Carl KM1H - Original Message -

Re: Topband: Using CAT5 in place of coax (was video baluns)

2012-05-08 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/7/2012 6:12 PM, GeorgeWallner wrote: The twisted pairs had #31 common mode chockes every 4 foot. While the twisted pairs worked, despite the balanced arrangement, there was more common mode (BC and noise) pick-up than the same runs using (non-balanced, but grounded) RG-179 cables. The

Topband: Using CAT5 in place of coax (was video baluns)

2012-05-07 Thread Rick Karlquist
I did some careful measurements of CAT5 cable a few years ago using a 4 port network analyzer (NOT a 2 port VNA with baluns). On my random sample, the characteristic impedance was within 5% of 100 ohms. The cable is fairly lossy, which is no surprise given the tiny wires. There doesn't seem to

Re: Topband: Using CAT5 in place of coax (was video baluns)

2012-05-07 Thread Kevin
That's why it's rated at 100 meters max distance when used for networking. Now before everybody breaks their fingers posting anecdotal evidence to the contrary I have done the same. It worked out great, till we starting loading that segment down. That 400' run was replaced with fiber inside a

Re: Topband: Using CAT5 in place of coax (was video baluns)

2012-05-07 Thread ZR
Loss can be mitigated by a preamp at the antenna end. One application would to be to feed multiple Beverages at a hub without a relay box with its isolation problems and intermittents. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Rick Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com To: Bill Wichers

Re: Topband: Using CAT5 in place of coax (was video baluns)

2012-05-07 Thread ZR
Shielded CAT5/6 is readily available. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: GeorgeWallner aa...@atlanticbb.net To: topband topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 9:12 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Using CAT5 in place of coax (was video baluns) On Mon, 7 May 2012 19:17:58 -0500

Re: Topband: Using CAT5 in place of coax (was video baluns)

2012-05-07 Thread Rick Karlquist
GeorgeWallner wrote: I did that. I was testing a small dual-feed DHDL loop (-50 dBi gain) using twisted pairs removed from a CAT 5 cable. On the bench the twisted pair showed 100 ohm of impedance and a loss of about 2.8 dB at 1.8 MHz on a 100' run. (I also tried CAT 6. The results were the