Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-27 Thread GEORGE WALLNER
There is no such things as "best antenna". When I lived in Arizona, I had on a hill-top a doublet with 300 foot arms at 100 foot height (effectively more because of the hill-top). I used it both as a doublet and as a vertical T (with the two wires of the ladder line shorted). It had about 40 ra

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Have to remember that W8JI, ON4UN and many others were not lying or deceived. What we are finding out is that a major rule has some exceptions. If you're talking to a club member in the US, you better point them to verticals, T's or inverted L's. One of the missing aspects of dipole vs. vertical c

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-26 Thread Mike Waters
It just dawned on me that the reason why an inverted-L works so well for many is because it radiates both vertically and horizontally. Remember W8JI's experience where a nearby ham, using an inverted-L on a small city lot in Toledo, Ohio did nearly as well as Tom with his 120' tower with 120 full

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-26 Thread Mike Waters
This has been an eye-opening discussion for me! I have always preached the 'gospel' of vertical-is-usually-best based on W8JI, ON4UN, and *many* other long-time Topbanders. Someday I'll have to revise www.w0btu.com/160_meters.html and include a link to this thread. I stand corrected. Thank you, ge

Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-26 Thread F Z_Bruce
rpower.net Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 12:56 AM To: Topband reflector Subject: Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts Hi Rick and Steve, Steve's QTH is almost directly north of the south geomagnetic pole. His latitude is approximately 32 degr

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-25 Thread Steve Ireland
. Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ From: donov...@starpower.net Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 12:56 AM To: Topband reflector Subject: Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts Hi Rick and Steve, Steve's QTH is almost directly north of the south geomag

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-24 Thread K4SAV
Here is an interesting pdf document including information on the effects of Earth's Electron Gyrofrequency on 160 meters. The 160-Meter Band: An Enigma Shrouded in Mystery http://solar.spacew.com/cq/cqmar98.pdf Jerry, K4SAV On 11/24/2018 5:08 AM, Steve Ireland wrote: Hi Frank (and Rick) Som

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-24 Thread Steve Ireland
the electron gyro-frequency From: donov...@starpower.net Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 12:56 AM To: Topband reflector Subject: Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts Hi Rick and Steve, Steve's QTH is almost directly north of the south g

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-22 Thread n4is
Hi Frank I can comment on horizontal polarization. I am experiencing both polarization since 1980; with a vertical and a inverted V at 30m and 40m later; also with high DRF receiving antennas like the HWF and VWF since 2006. Here my 2 cents. There are 3 steps. 1. Make the

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-22 Thread Carl Luetzelschwab
What Steve and Nick VE7DXR were referring to is the geomagnetic latitude in relation to polarization - not ground conductivity. This involves the ordinary and extraordinary waves that propagate through the ionosphere, and how 160m is affected by being close to the electron gyro-frequency. Carl K9

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-22 Thread donovanf
a. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" To: "Steve Ireland" , n...@n4is.com, donov...@starpower.net, "Topband reflector" Cc: "Dave Olean" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 3:40:10 PM Subject

Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-22 Thread F Z_Bruce
Its difficult to use Geomagnetic latitude as a basis of conductivity because of variables. Robin VK6LK lived in Margaret River, Western Australia, and salt sea water was a few feet under ground. He used vertical antennas effectively. He caught rain water from his roof to storage for his drink

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-22 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Holy YMMV. Thanks for your great posting of what most of us didn't know (I know I didn't). Do you have any numerical data concerning the ground conductivity in VK6 vs the VK east coast? The conductivity at my QTH is around 30mS, so obviously you are in an alternative universe by comparison. I a

Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-22 Thread Steve Ireland
Hi JC In my experience, here in the southern hemisphere and relatively close to the equator, I wish that "Vertical TX antenna is the only way to work DX on topband!" Unfortunately vertical antennas mostly don't work here well where I am in south-western WA - there is too much ground loss in