Re: Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages?

2012-01-20 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Thanks, everyone, for too many good inputs to list here. A lot of good ideas, both for experimental approaches and for the final configuration. At least for experimental purposes, I will go with the preamp in the shack and, assuming that my feedline is not quiet, significant improvements in m

Re: Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages?

2012-01-20 Thread Rick Karlquist
Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > I am getting comments from people who have installed FCP plus isolation > transformer 160 TX antennas, how their new TX antenna is quieter than > their > K9AY or pennant, maybe a third or half of respondents (!!!) with some hint > or outright statement of this. But I thin

Re: Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages?

2012-01-20 Thread ZR
- Original Message - From: "Don Kirk" To: ; Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages? > > > N4ZR said : I have a 20 dB ARR preamp", "My choice is whether to put it at

Re: Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages?

2012-01-20 Thread Chuck
I feed my normal Beverages with 320' of RG-58. and sometimes (at other locations) feed a Beverage with a shorter cable. Never ever have I been able to pull the antenna from the transformer between antenna and coax and have quietness in the receiver. Always there is too much pickup from AM BC

Re: Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages?

2012-01-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I am getting comments from people who have installed FCP plus isolation transformer 160 TX antennas, how their new TX antenna is quieter than their K9AY or pennant, maybe a third or half of respondents (!!!) with some hint or outright statement of this. But I think, rather than the TX antenna bein

Re: Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages?

2012-01-20 Thread Don Kirk
N4ZR said : I have a 20 dB ARR preamp", "My choice is whether to put it at the antenna end, incurring the added complexity of sending 12V DC to it via the coax, or to put it in the shack." Per the ON4UN book, "In most cases you can put the preamplifier

Re: Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages?

2012-01-20 Thread Greg - ZL3IX
Hi Pete, The common mode issue doesn't really affect your decision. You will need to ensure that common mode pickup on the coax doesn't get into the antenna, which ever position you choose for your preamp. This is really important for low output antennas like the Pennant The decision on whet

Re: Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages?

2012-01-20 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 10:53 -0500, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: > Having totally struck out raising this topic on Towertalk, I'm bringing > it here in the hopes of getting some solid advice. > > I have a 20 dB ARR preamp of the type praised by ON4UN in his book. I > want to use it with a variety of R

Topband: Where to place a preamp? Switching Beverages?

2012-01-20 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Having totally struck out raising this topic on Towertalk, I'm bringing it here in the hopes of getting some solid advice. I have a 20 dB ARR preamp of the type praised by ON4UN in his book. I want to use it with a variety of RX antennas - loops, BOGs, etc. - that have very low output levels.