Topband: antenna question

2015-09-19 Thread Art Snapper
This question is about bi-directional beverages, or more specifically BOG's using a reflection transformer. How does the loss on the forward and reverse direction compare to an omnidirectional reference antenna? I am not sure I worded that properly, but let's say the following was observed.

Topband: Antenna question

2014-03-28 Thread Bruce
Intriguing question ? Has anyone on the reflector ACTUALLY tried two wire audio twisted pair for a 2 wire, two direction Beverage antenna. If yes, how did it work ? Notice any added directional properties? 73 Bruce www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html _ Topband Reflector

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2014-03-28 Thread Herbert Schonbohm
If Cat 5 cable will work why won't two wire twisted air audio cable? Is it because of the tightness of the twist that is of concern. I see no reason it won't work except for the cancellation property of twisted pair but with a Beverage we are dealing with a different wire signal propagation

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2014-03-28 Thread kd9sv
) and these transformer sets are available from DXE 73, de gary -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Herbert Schonbohm Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:29 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna question If Cat 5 cable will work

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2014-03-28 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Floating the shield may even make it work better? Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ On 3/28/2014 9:23 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: Has anyone on the reflector ACTUALLY tried two wire audio twisted pair for a 2 wire, two direction Beverage antenna. If yes, how did it work ? Notice any added directional

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2014-03-28 Thread Tom W8JI
Floating the shield may even make it work better? This shield could be used as the antenna, and the inner pair as the transmission line. That would work fine. _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

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2014-03-28 Thread Tom W8JI
Has anyone on the reflector ACTUALLY tried two wire audio twisted pair for a 2 wire, two direction Beverage antenna. If yes, how did it work ? Notice any added directional properties? There is no reason why it won't work or why shielded wire won't work with proper transformers and wiring.

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2014-03-28 Thread Tom W8JI
I would like to see if anyone actually tried the wire, and if it rejected any portion of RF signals. How would someone measure rejected any portion of RF signals in a meaningful, quantitative, way? _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

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2014-03-28 Thread Bruce
To: 'Bruce' k...@myfairpoint.net; 'Herbert Schonbohm' herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 9:55 AM Subject: FW: Topband: Antenna question Herb and Bruce, apparently the reflector stripped the attachment of so I am resending this to both of you...de gary -Original Message

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2014-03-28 Thread Carl
7:43 PM Subject: Topband: Antenna question Intriguing question ? Has anyone on the reflector ACTUALLY tried two wire audio twisted pair for a 2 wire, two direction Beverage antenna. If yes, how did it work ? Notice any added directional properties? 73 Bruce www.qsl.net/k1fz

Topband: Antenna Question

2013-12-09 Thread rick darwicki
Hi all, My current LB antenna is an old Create 40/80 Vertical mounted about 20 feet off the ground with a bunch of radials at the base. I removed the Create 40 M trap and extended the mast to about 35 feet. At about 33 feet I have a homemade 40M trap in a horizontal wire out about 85 feet with

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2013-12-09 Thread Ashton Lee
The 43 foot antennas are very short (low inductance, poor efficiency) on 160. Only my very best tuners will tune them… and tuning doesn’t make them efficient, it only makes them not destroy the radio with reflected currents. The best solution is to top load a 43 food antenna and turn it into an

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2013-12-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/9/2013 10:47 AM, Ashton Lee wrote: The 43 foot antennas are very short (low inductance, poor efficiency) on 160. Only my very best tuners will tune them… and tuning doesn’t make them efficient, it only makes them not destroy the radio with reflected currents. The best solution is to top

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2013-12-09 Thread Raoul Coetzee
or MMANA, please let me know. So I am off 160m for the time being.     Regards, Raoul ZS1REC             From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna Question On 12/9/2013 10:47 AM, Ashton Lee wrote

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2013-12-09 Thread Tom W8JI
Do you think a Nye would tune my antenna to 160/80/40 if I extended it to 43 feet or so? Base voltage problems? With 500 watts actually applied to a 43 foot vertical made of 1 inch tubing, the base voltage is about 14 kV peak. With standard 1/4 inch bolts forming the arc electrodes, 14 kV

Re: Topband: : antenna question

2012-12-10 Thread Tom W8JI
once upon a time a long time ago i saw somewhere in a magazine or book, or maybe someone told me, or i heard at a ham club meeting or flea market, or i had a dream while in heart surgery, or my wife told me that a 300 ohm TV twin lead dipole is not all twin lead, but the twin lead is shorter than

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2012-12-10 Thread Brian Machesney
Mike, ...a 300 ohm TV twin lead dipole is not all twin lead, but the twin lead is shorter than a half wavelength and at each end a wire continues to make half wavelength length of the dipole... This technique could be applied to shorten a half-wave dipole by using the twinlead as a T-match.

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2012-12-10 Thread mike l dormann
Thank you everybody for thinking and commenting about the folded dipole twin lead question. K1FZ thought he remembered it in a hints and kinks article, so it probably was not a dream I had in the hospital. I try to stay away from 50 ohms and coax of all ilk, except for using RG8 to run HV around

Topband: : antenna question

2012-12-09 Thread mike l dormann
once upon a time a long time ago i saw somewhere in a magazine or book, or maybe someone told me, or i heard at a ham club meeting or flea market, or i had a dream while in heart surgery, or my wife told me that a 300 ohm TV twin lead dipole is not all twin lead, but the twin lead is shorter than