Super Holger, thx! Ps And thx Redmer, for pinpointing.
Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31 (0)63 038 12 20 E michel.bo...@tno.nl<mailto:michel.bo...@tno.nl> Location<http://www.tno.nl/locations/DTS> [cid:image001.gif@01D75855.047FFC80]<http://www.tno.nl/> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. Van: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com <topbraid-users@googlegroups.com> Namens Holger Knublauch Verzonden: donderdag 3 juni 2021 00:52 Aan: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: [topbraid-users] render issue in case of uuid code as name Apologies, you are right. I even found a ticket in our Jira system from 2017 where we wanted to update this but it fell through the cracks. The problem is that the Sorted Turtle writer uses an outdated base library that we cloned from an earlier Jena version. We'll try to fix that for 7.1. Holger On 2021-06-02 6:03 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: Hi Holger, Are you sure? latest Turtle says: [168s] PN_LOCAL ::= (PN_CHARS_U<https://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/#grammar-production-PN_CHARS_U> | ':' | [0-9] | PLX<https://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/#grammar-production-PLX>) ((PN_CHARS<https://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/#grammar-production-PN_CHARS> | '.' | ':' | PLX<https://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/#grammar-production-PLX>)* (PN_CHARS<https://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/#grammar-production-PN_CHARS> | ':' | PLX<https://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/#grammar-production-PLX>))? It was not allowed in the 2008 variant hence (see red): D.4 Changes from January 2008 Team Submission<http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/2008/SUBM-turtle-20080114/> to First Public Working Draft<http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-turtle-20110809/> 1. Adopted three additional string syntaxes from SPARQL: STRING_LITERAL2<http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-sparql11-query-20130321/#rSTRING_LITERAL2>, STRING_LITERAL_LONG1<http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-sparql11-query-20130321/#rSTRING_LITERAL_LONG1>, STRING_LITERAL_LONG2<http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-sparql11-query-20130321/#rSTRING_LITERAL_LONG2> 2. Adopted SPARQL's syntax for prefixed names (see editor's draft<http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/#rPrefixedName>): * '.'s in names in all positions of a local name apart from the first or last, e.g. ex:first.name. * digits in the first character of the PN_LOCAL<http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/#rPN_LOCAL> lexical token, e.g. ex:7tm. 1. adopted SPARQL's IRI resolution and prefix substitution text. 2. explicitly allowed re-use of the same prefix. 3. Added parsing rules<https://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/#sec-parsing>. GR MICHEL Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31 (0)63 038 12 20 E michel.bo...@tno.nl<mailto:michel.bo...@tno.nl> Location<http://www.tno.nl/locations/DTS> [cid:image001.gif@01D75855.047FFC80]<http://www.tno.nl/> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. Van: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com<mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com> <topbraid-users@googlegroups.com><mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com> Namens Holger Knublauch Verzonden: woensdag 2 juni 2021 03:40 Aan: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com<mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com> Onderwerp: Re: [topbraid-users] render issue in case of uuid code as name We use slightly different serialization algorithms across tools but local names cannot start with digits so writing the full URI is correct. If you just export "Turtle" from EDG or save to Turtle from TBC you'll get test_uuid:675d0ae5-d8eb-49b7-867f-80ba8c0b09e9 while Sorted Turtle will produce <http://example.org/ontologies/test_uuid#675d0ae5-d8eb-49b7-867f-80ba8c0b09e9><http://example.org/ontologies/test_uuid#675d0ae5-d8eb-49b7-867f-80ba8c0b09e9> which is more correct AFAIK. Both can be parsed though, so it shouldn't matter too much. Holger On 2021-06-01 10:14 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: Dear tq I have asked earlier but I could not refind…. I have: https://w3id.org/cbnl/skos/term#048B3010-0BD1-4A89-9F49-FE6D825DA799 rdf:type skos:Concept ; dct:source "IMBOR2021beta"@NL-nl ; skos:broader nen2660-term:InformationObject ; skos:definition "Informatieobject voor het registreren en koppelen van documenten aan objecttypes."@NL-nl<mailto:%22Informatieobject%20voor%20het%20registreren%20en%20koppelen%20van%20documenten%20aan%20objecttypes.%22@NL-nl> ; skos:prefLabel "Document"@NL-nl ; . 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