Re: [tor-dev] BSD 2/3-Clause License (was: Torperf)

2013-09-18 Thread grarpamp
The only difference between 2 and 3 clause BSD is the presence of the third clause. So long as you're not doing what the third clause restricts, they're compatible. Coordination is still prudent though. 3 clause still exists because some people (mostly legacy entities) think "endorsement" and "pro

Re: [tor-dev] OnionMail First Test

2013-09-18 Thread josef . winger
Why you guys use JAVA for such a security concerned email client? JAVA itself isn't secure and most relayable computers don't have a virtual machine. You know JavaSnoop and vm-hookers like that? Just rewrite it into plain C imho... /jo > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. September 2013 um 02:26 Uhr > Von

Re: [tor-dev] Torperf implementation considerations (was: Torperf)

2013-09-18 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/18/13 3:49 AM, Kevin Butler wrote: >> Executing scripts and reading stdout/stderr is probably too low-level. >> I think we need a Python/Twisted (or whatever language Torperf will be >> written in) interface for running an experiment and retrieving results. > > You're probably right on stdout/

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-18 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/17/13 6:39 PM, Karsten Loesing wrote: > On 9/17/13 6:25 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:53:15AM +0200, Karsten Loesing wrote: >>> Here are the three graphs just for September, all ending on the >>> same day: >>> >>> https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=dire

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-18 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/17/13 12:02 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > I think it would be good to write a paragraph or two to answer Matthew's > question -- why are these new numbers different, and what makes us think > they're better? I admit I've lost track of the various user counting > approaches too. I thought more

Re: [tor-dev] BSD 2/3-Clause License (was: Torperf)

2013-09-18 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Karsten Loesing wrote: > On 9/16/13 2:51 PM, Sathyanarayanan Gunasekaran wrote: >> I'm currently using BSD 3-Clause License (used by Tor) for torperf2. >> Kevin ported ooni's setup script and made it work with torperf2, but >> ooni uses a BSD 2-Clause License (both

Re: [tor-dev] OnionMail First Test

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew F
Josef, Spot on. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:23 AM, wrote: > Why you guys use JAVA for such a security concerned email client? > > JAVA itself isn't secure and most relayable computers don't have > a virtual machine. You know JavaSnoop and vm-hookers like that? > > Just rewrite it into plain C im

Re: [tor-dev] OnionMail First Test

2013-09-18 Thread Liste
josef.win...@email.de ha scritto: > Why you guys use JAVA for such a security concerned email client? > > JAVA itself isn't secure and most relayable computers don't have > a virtual machine. You know JavaSnoop and vm-hookers like that? > > Just rewrite it into plain C imho... > > /jo > JavaSnoo

[tor-dev] What to read to analyze Tor's use of NTor?

2013-09-18 Thread Roger Dingledine
Hi Nick, Ian, I've been pointing people to "Section 6 of http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.228.6223"; when they ask what NTor is. But then I realized that that's not the best (single) place to send cryptographers when I ask them to analyze whether we've designed or built it r