Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

2014-06-11 Thread David Stainton
The "torcoin" idea is SUSPICIOUS (and makes me think of a thousand conspiracy theories). What is "torcoin"? How can I most effectively and systematically completely destroy this idea? The good news is that we don't need it, it's not endorsed by the Tor Project... and it'll never work. The non-finan

Re: [tor-dev] [Tor2web] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

2014-06-11 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 10/06/14 22:42, Virgil Griffith wrote: > General remarks: > * I agree 100% with your Dec 2013 post. > * All data I seek to make available in "Torati" is available from > Onionoo. > > The proposal is to interface to Torati is like ATLAS but keyed by Tor > nickname. > * However, where

[tor-dev] Typo in torspec.git/control-spec.txt

2014-06-11 Thread Frithjof
Hi, the Tor control protocol spec says in ยง4.1 about asyncrhronous replies: > These replies can be sent after a corresponding SETEVENTS command has been > received. They will not be interleaved with other Reply elements, but they > can not appear between a command and its corresponding reply. >

Re: [tor-dev] Typo in torspec.git/control-spec.txt

2014-06-11 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Frithjof wrote: [...] > If I am not reading the example wrongly, the negation in the last > sentence is wrong, Thanks! Should be fixed now, by commit 2ecd06fcfd883e8c. ___ tor-dev mailing list tor-dev@lists.torproject.

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

2014-06-11 Thread Lukas Erlacher
Hi, On 06/10/2014 02:26 AM, Virgil Griffith wrote: I propose establishing a subdomain on torproject.org giving each Tor relay operator (hereafter affectionately called "Torati") his/her own page using the information her machines provide to the Tor Directory Consensus.

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

2014-06-11 Thread Virgil Griffith
David, Respectfully, financial incentivization is a much more nuanced issue than "TorCoin is bad". TorCoin paper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7r4osQgWVqKTHdxTlowUVpsVmJRcjF3Y3dtcTVscFhEaW5F There are two issues to consider, in order. (1) we wish to engender the creation of additional Tor

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

2014-06-11 Thread Virgil Griffith
> Also, theconcept of naming authorities is about to be phased out [1], so > better not build new services that rely on nicknames. Karsten I love you. Not only do you have fine ideas, you are the greatest feedback provider in the world. Agreed 100%. Replace key-by-nickname with key-by-finger

[tor-dev] PrivEX - Privacy

2014-06-11 Thread Tariq Elahi
tl;dr: We propose collecting data from exit nodes to improve the Tor network, using differential privacy and secure multiparty computation to do it in a privacy-sensitive manner. Hi tor-dev, In the ongoing effort to make Tor faster, secure and more resilient, network data plays an important ro