Re: [tor-dev] Second release of OnioNS beta

2015-09-30 Thread Jesse V
Good news! I have identified the issue and fixed it. Turns out that the RPATH wasn't actually embedded in the binary, so the loader couldn't find the common library on most machines. Before: $ objdump -x /usr/bin/onions-client | grep RPATH $ After: $ objdump -x /usr/bin/onions-client | grep RP

Re: [tor-dev] Onion Services and NAT Punching

2015-09-30 Thread Andreas Krey
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:12:53 +, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: ... > Are there any use cases that: > * need NAT punching, > * don???t need service location anonymity, and > * would benefit from lower latency? Of course. All the cases where you set up a hidden service exactly because your host

Re: [tor-dev] Second release of OnioNS beta

2015-09-30 Thread Jesse V
Heads-up everyone, After some debugging with s7r, it appears that sometimes the programs (onions-server, onions-hs, or onions-client) fail to start because they cannot load the common library. So if you run any of the programs in the terminal, you will see an error that libonions-common.so can

Re: [tor-dev] Onion Services and NAT Punching

2015-09-30 Thread David Stainton
Hi All, Hi Tim! > Do you know a use case which needs Single Onion Services and NAT punching? chyaa! NAT has ruined the Internet, violates the end to end principal and make it more difficult to develop decentralized systems. *deep sigh*... Obviously, centralized systems design contributes to human

[tor-dev] Draft proposal -- no number yet: How to safely drop support for old clients.

2015-09-30 Thread Spencer
Hi, Nick Mathewson: Draft proposal -- no number yet: How to safely drop support for old clients. I feel like "safely" sounds too fluffy and not reflective of the proposal. - How to force-drop support for old clients. or - How to depreciate support for old clients. The secon

Re: [tor-dev] Anycast Exits (related : Special-use-TLD support)

2015-09-30 Thread Jeff Burdges
On Wed, 2015-09-30 at 15:39 +0200, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: > > First, Tor adds the line "ACE :" to the > > node's > > Second, Tor allows connections to ip:port as if the torrc contains > > : > >ExitPolicy allow: > > As ExitPolicyRejectPrivate defaults to 1, these policies should be

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal: Load-balancing hidden services by splitting introduction from rendezvous

2015-09-30 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 30 Sep 2015, at 17:27, Tom van der Woerdt wrote: > > ... > > Filename: xxx-intro-rendezvous-controlsocket.txt > Title: Load-balancing hidden services by splitting introduction from > rendezvous > Author: Tom van der Woerdt > Created: 2015-09-30 > Status: draft > > 1. Overview and mo

[tor-dev] Rate limiting of a hidden service

2015-09-30 Thread Evan d'Entremont
I developed a scheme to rate limit hidden services using proof-of-work; https://gist.github.com/evandentremont/a3ad12a5cc3a924dae34 The server sends a semi-prime to the client, which then factors it. The client submits the factored primes back with the next request. The 'rate' can be throttled by

[tor-dev] Proposal: Load-balancing hidden services by splitting introduction from rendezvous

2015-09-30 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
Hey all, I'd like your thoughts and comments on this proposal. Tom PS: If you want to deliver them in person, I'm in Berlin. Filename: xxx-intro-rendezvous-controlsocket.txt Title: Load-balancing hidden services by splitting introduction from rendezvous Author: Tom van der Woerdt Cr

[tor-dev] Onion Services and NAT Punching

2015-09-30 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
Hi All, Do you know a use case which needs Single Onion Services and NAT punching? We’re wondering if there are mobile or desktop applications / services that would use a single onion service for the performance benefits, but still need NAT punching. (And don’t need the anonymity of a hidden se

Re: [tor-dev] Draft proposal -- no number yet: How to safely drop support for old clients.

2015-09-30 Thread Sebastian Hahn
Hi, comments inline. On 09/30/2015 12:01 PM, Nick Mathewson wrote: Early versions of Tor checked the recommended-versions field in the directory to see whether they should keep running. If they didn't recognize you did the thing where you To override this, a Tor instance m

Re: [tor-dev] Draft proposal -- no number yet: How to safely drop support for old clients.

2015-09-30 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 30 Sep 2015, at 12:01, Nick Mathewson wrote: > > [This isn't done yet, but I've shown it to enough people that I should > share it with the list.] > > 1. Introduction and background > > 1.1. Motivation > > Frequently, we find that very old versions of Tor should no longer be > suppor

Re: [tor-dev] Anycast Exits (related : Special-use-TLD support)

2015-09-30 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 30 Sep 2015, at 14:53, Jeff Burdges wrote: > ... > Filename: xxx-anycast-exit.txt > Title: Anycast Exit > Author: Jeffrey Burdges > Created: 28 September 2015 > Status: ? > Implemented-In: ? > … > Server Side > > We propose an AnycastExit Tor configuration option > >AnycastExit : >

[tor-dev] Approaching Deadline: ICGCTI2015 - Malaysia

2015-09-30 Thread Jackie Blanco
The Third International Conference on Green Computing, Technology and Innovation (ICGCTI2015) Universiti Putra Malaysia, Selangor, Malaysia 8-10 December 2015 http://sdiwc.net/conferences/icgcti2015/ The proposed conference on the above theme will held over three days, with presentations deliv

[tor-dev] Anycast Exits (related : Special-use-TLD support)

2015-09-30 Thread Jeff Burdges
I have attached below the second half of the Special-Use TLD proposal that discusses how a local name service tool contact a peer-to-peer application running on an exist node There is nothing specific here to providing name services, any peer-to -peer application might potentially want an anycas

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal: Adding x-namespace to relay descriptor for key:value pairs

2015-09-30 Thread Virgil Griffith
Yes I did. Here's the modified proposal. Filename: ExtraRelayDescriptorFields.txt Title: Adding X-namespace to extra-info descriptor for key:value pairs Author: Virgil Griffith Created: 2015-09-30 Status: Open 1. Motivation We wish to allow developers to build new applications atop relays. Towa

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal: Adding x-namespace to relay descriptor for key:value pairs

2015-09-30 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Dear Virgil, On 9/30/15, Virgil Griffith wrote: > Filename: ExtraRelayDescriptorFields.txt > Title: Adding x-namespace to relay descriptor for key:value pairs > Author: Virgil Griffith > Created: 2015-09-30 > Status: Open > > > 1. Motivation > We wish to allow developers to build new applications

[tor-dev] Proposal: Adding x-namespace to relay descriptor for key:value pairs

2015-09-30 Thread Virgil Griffith
Filename: ExtraRelayDescriptorFields.txt Title: Adding x-namespace to relay descriptor for key:value pairs Author: Virgil Griffith Created: 2015-09-30 Status: Open 1. Motivation We wish to allow developers to build new applications atop relays. Towards this end, we wish to add the ability for use

[tor-dev] Draft proposal -- no number yet: How to safely drop support for old clients.

2015-09-30 Thread Nick Mathewson
[This isn't done yet, but I've shown it to enough people that I should share it with the list.] 1. Introduction and background 1.1. Motivation Frequently, we find that very old versions of Tor should no longer be supported on the network. To remove relays is easy enough: we simply upda

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal: Merging Hidden Service Directories and Introduction Points

2015-09-30 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
Op 12/07/15 om 23:48 schreef John Brooks: Hello! George and I, along with the other participants of this hidden services meeting, have written a proposal for the idea to merge hidden service directories and introduction points into the same entity along with proposal 224. Comments are encourage