Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-29 Thread Damian Johnson
> Nyx sounds fine to me too (as does Erebus). I assume you have > considered and determined to not be too significant that many people > use *nix (sp?) when they want to refer generically and collectively to > various flavors of Unix-like OSes. Thanks Paul! Yup, *nix is something I considered (and

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-29 Thread Paul Syverson
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 06:47:19PM -0700, Damian Johnson wrote: > > Did some searching this morning and found another I like almost just > > as well, and might be more fitting: Erebus. > > Actually, I'm warming up to Nyx too, which has the advantage of being > shorter. Surprisingly it too doesn't

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-27 Thread Damian Johnson
> Did some searching this morning and found another I like almost just > as well, and might be more fitting: Erebus. Actually, I'm warming up to Nyx too, which has the advantage of being shorter. Surprisingly it too doesn't have much in terms of conflicts (mostly just cosmetics and gaming). Both

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-27 Thread Damian Johnson
Thanks syndikal. I can't say I'm overly concerned about the shadow connotation. In fact, as an anonymity tool I think it's delightfully fitting. There's nothing inherently negative about shadows or secrecy. Privacy is indeed what we're all about, after all. Cheers! -Damian

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-27 Thread syndikal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:51:56 -0700 Damian Johnson wrote: > In greek mythology Erebus is a primordial deity and personification of > shadow [1]. i may not be very qualified to name projects (and this is my first contribution to arm), but i feel tha

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-27 Thread Damian Johnson
> Gave it some more thought over the last couple days and think I'll > move forward with it. Hi all. I apologize for making more noise on this front but I couldn't shake the feeling that I'm making a mistake. While I like the name 'seth' Mike was right, most people I ran it by associate it with a

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-16 Thread Speak Freely
Hey, Crap, I obviously didn't do enough research on the conflicts... I did a quick search and didn't find anything Linux package specific... Most of the listings actually refer to things in the past, long dead - Iris Associates - from the 80s, bought out in '94 - SGI IRIS - also from the 80s. Doe

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-16 Thread Damian Johnson
Hi Matt, thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately IRIS has quite a number of conflicts, including multiple software projects... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris#Information_technology Cheers! -Damian On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Speak Freely wrote: > Hi everyone (Damien specifically),

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-16 Thread Speak Freely
Hi everyone (Damien specifically), I know the discussion is [almost?] over, but I couldn't help but share my little thought. Damien, do as you please. :) Here's my suggestion: IRIS -> Interactive Relay Information System Iris is the part of the eye that controls what you see (the amount of ligh

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-15 Thread Federico Ceratto
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Damian Johnson wrote: > 1. It needs to be short. This is a terminal command so anything > lengthy is just begging people to alias it down. Short commands are more likely to cause collisions and sometimes distribution maintainers are forced to rename them (leadin

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-14 Thread Damian Johnson
> Response on this thread though makes me nervous. Personally I really > like the name... Gave it some more thought over the last couple days and think I'll move forward with it. Name confusion is something I've seen a lot in the last five years, but honestly I also think arm was simply a poor na

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-13 Thread meejah
Mike Perry writes: > Conversational confusion aside, one of my pet peeves is being unable to > search the web for a piece of software by name only and find it on the > first page. +1 Also I think to be *completely* modern, you have to make sure the .io domain still exists too, right? ;) FWIW, "

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-13 Thread Damian Johnson
> Hi everyone, > > "Argos: the name of the 100-eyed giant in Greek mythology." > > It fits, if my opinion were to be welcome. > And it doesn't clash with the "Argus" programming language. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus_Panoptes Hi Lluís. Last night I sunk a couple hours into looking for a

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-13 Thread Lluís
Hi everyone, "Argos: the name of the 100-eyed giant in Greek mythology." It fits, if my opinion were to be welcome. And it doesn't clash with the "Argus" programming language. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus_Panoptes Lluís Andreas Krey: > On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 00:00:36 +, Damian Johnson

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-13 Thread Andreas Krey
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 00:00:36 +, Damian Johnson wrote: ... > And on a side note, damn naming things is hard... Indeed. You mostly need invented names to avoid the google trap, like git didn't, and thalys did. 'sethor' came to mind, and it contains 'tor' in a non-roger-invoking way. :-) (But ap

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-13 Thread Damian Johnson
>> Not to be a downer, but I'm not sure a common name like Seth really >> solves the problem here. I can already foresee: >> >> new_person: New relay operator here, any tips? >> somebody: Hey, try Seth! >> new_person: The EFF technologist who posts on tor-talk? >> new_person: Does he help with

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Damian Johnson
> Not to be a downer, but I'm not sure a common name like Seth really > solves the problem here. I can already foresee: > > new_person: New relay operator here, any tips? > somebody: Hey, try Seth! > new_person: The EFF technologist who posts on tor-talk? > new_person: Does he help with relay a

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Mar 12, 2015 8:26 PM, wrote: > > I love short 2-3 letters commands, they feel super UNIX-y and arm was one of them. > Some alternatives: > > trm - Tor Relay Monitor > Can't find any notable clash in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRM > Clash if read as "trim" > > tm - Tor Monitor > Maybe clashin

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Mike Perry
Damian Johnson: > Hmmm, thread about something as squishing and infinitely debatable as > a name. What could go wrong? But before you get excited I've already > picked one, this is just to sanity check with the community that I'm > not making a stupid mistake... again. > > Five years ago when I st

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread sid77
dia.org/wiki/TM#Electronics_and_media Not that seth is MUCH longer then arm anyway :-P Cheers, Marco - Original Message - From: "Damian Johnson" To: tor-dev@lists.torproject.org Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 2015 4:45:19 PM Subject: [tor-dev] Renaming arm Hmmm, thread about something as

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Kenneth Freeman
On 03/12/2015 04:20 PM, Josef Stautner wrote: > Can tor-arm also be used to get the status of a normal client daemon > running? > If yes, the router part can also be misunderstood. Anonymity Regimen: Graphical User's Sousveillance, then. 0xDD79757F.asc Description: application/pgp-keys s

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Josef Stautner
Can tor-arm also be used to get the status of a normal client daemon running? If yes, the router part can also be misunderstood. Am 12.03.2015 um 23:07 schrieb Morten Linderud: > Amended (onion-)Router Graphical User Status? > > Worth a shot? > > > > On 03/12/2015 11:02 PM, Kenneth Freeman wrote:

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Damian Johnson
> Can tor-arm also be used to get the status of a normal client daemon > running? > If yes, the router part can also be misunderstood. Yup, it can. ___ tor-dev mailing list tor-dev@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Kenneth Freeman
On 03/12/2015 04:07 PM, Morten Linderud wrote: > Amended (onion-)Router Graphical User Status? > > Worth a shot? Anonymity Router Graphical User Sousveillance, surely. 0xDD79757F.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Morten Linderud
Amended (onion-)Router Graphical User Status? Worth a shot? On 03/12/2015 11:02 PM, Kenneth Freeman wrote: > > Surely Everyone Tors Here > > Although I think Argus a better descriptive name. Good luck backronyming > THAT. > > > > > > ___ > tor-

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Damian Johnson
Interesting! Argus indeed would be a descriptive name. Honestly though I like the sound of Seth more, and besides that there would be a conflict with a language... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus_%28programming_language%29 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Kenneth Freeman wrote: > > Surely

[tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Kenneth Freeman
Surely Everyone Tors Here Although I think Argus a better descriptive name. Good luck backronyming THAT. 0xDD79757F.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tor-dev mailing list tor-dev@lists.

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-12 Thread Tom Ritter
Does it backronym to anything? Can it? ;) -tom On Mar 10, 2015 11:45 AM, "Damian Johnson" wrote: > Hmmm, thread about something as squishing and infinitely debatable as > a name. What could go wrong? But before you get excited I've already > picked one, this is just to sanity check with the comm

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 03:03:48PM -0700, Damian Johnson wrote: > > Does it backronym to anything? Can it? ;) > > Roger's been attempting to come up with a decent backronym all day. > Can't say I care, but if somebody comes up with a really good one then > happy to adopt it. safely explain tor's

Re: [tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-10 Thread Damian Johnson
> Does it backronym to anything? Can it? ;) Roger's been attempting to come up with a decent backronym all day. Can't say I care, but if somebody comes up with a really good one then happy to adopt it. ___ tor-dev mailing list tor-dev@lists.torproject.or

[tor-dev] Renaming arm

2015-03-10 Thread Damian Johnson
Hmmm, thread about something as squishing and infinitely debatable as a name. What could go wrong? But before you get excited I've already picked one, this is just to sanity check with the community that I'm not making a stupid mistake... again. Five years ago when I started arm [1] I had the foll