Re: [tor-dev] The case for Tor-over-QUIC

2022-03-20 Thread Ali Clark
Sections 3 and 6 of the Quux paper have some relevant discussion [1] > Unfortunately, it appears that the Quux QUIC paper studied QUIC at the > wrong position - between relays, and the QuTor implementation is > unclear. This means that it may still be an open question as to if > QUIC's congestion

Re: [tor-dev] The case for Tor-over-QUIC

2018-04-06 Thread Mike Perry
Mike Perry: > In Rome, I held a session about network protocol upgrades. My intent was > to cover the switch to two guards, conflux, datagram transports, and > QUIC. We ended up touching only briefly on everything but QUIC, but we > went into enough depth on QUIC itself that it was a worthwhile and

Re: [tor-dev] The case for Tor-over-QUIC

2018-03-28 Thread Mike Perry
Rob Jansen: > Thanks for the detailed write-up Mike! Theoretically, moving to QUIC > seems great; it seems to solve a lot of problems and has enough > advantages that we could just run with it. > > I'll reiterate some of my primary concerns that I gave in Rome: > > - I think it would be a mistake

Re: [tor-dev] The case for Tor-over-QUIC

2018-03-27 Thread Rob Jansen
Thanks for the detailed write-up Mike! Theoretically, moving to QUIC seems great; it seems to solve a lot of problems and has enough advantages that we could just run with it. I'll reiterate some of my primary concerns that I gave in Rome: - I think it would be a mistake to push forward with s

Re: [tor-dev] The case for Tor-over-QUIC

2018-03-26 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti - Lists
I would like to add and advocate that, whatever a network protocol upgrade will be done, Tor should starts supporting NAT traversal for it's relay, enabling users to contribute also without a "public ip address" . Enabling NATted users to become Tor Relay would increase the baseline of contributor

[tor-dev] The case for Tor-over-QUIC

2018-03-23 Thread Mike Perry
In Rome, I held a session about network protocol upgrades. My intent was to cover the switch to two guards, conflux, datagram transports, and QUIC. We ended up touching only briefly on everything but QUIC, but we went into enough depth on QUIC itself that it was a worthwhile and very productive ses