Re: [tor-relays] NSA's "Tor Stinks"

2013-10-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
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Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 08:26:52PM +0100, Chris Whittleston wrote: > So I just started running a non-exit relay on a Raspberry Pi, and have hit > a problem where it seems huge numbers of circuits are being created which > overwhelms the system and can cause tor to crash. I read here ( > https://blo

[tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Chris Whittleston
Hey guys, So I just started running a non-exit relay on a Raspberry Pi, and have hit a problem where it seems huge numbers of circuits are being created which overwhelms the system and can cause tor to crash. I read here ( https://blog.torproject.org/blog/how-to-handle-millions-new-tor-clients) th

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Chris Whittleston
Aha - makes sense, I'll just build it myself. Thanks for the quick response. So - the new handshake in 0.2.4.x doesn't help with the ongoing issues? On that page I linked it was suggested it might... Chris On 14 October 2013 20:33, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 08:26:52PM

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 08:36:58PM +0100, Chris Whittleston wrote: > Aha - makes sense, I'll just build it myself. Thanks for the quick response. > > So - the new handshake in 0.2.4.x doesn't help with the ongoing issues? On > that page I linked it was suggested it might... It does help! It helps

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Chris Whittleston
I see - so I'll probably still see the problem with a huge number of circuits being created after I've finished building 0.2.4. Is there any way to limit this, I'm guessing reducing the bandwidth wouldn't actually help? I guess I'll look into how much further I can overclock the CPU... Chris On

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Troy Arnold
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 08:36:58PM +0100, Chris Whittleston wrote: > Aha - makes sense, I'll just build it myself. Thanks for the quick response. > > So - the new handshake in 0.2.4.x doesn't help with the ongoing issues? On > that page I linked it was suggested it might... It would help except t

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Logforme
On 2013-10-14 22:01, Chris Whittleston wrote: > I see - so I'll probably still see the problem with a huge number of > circuits being created after I've finished building 0.2.4. Is there > any way to limit this, I'm guessing reducing the bandwidth wouldn't > actually help? I guess I'll look into ho

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Chris Whittleston
Thanks Logforme - yeah I was trying that before I sent the first email in this chain, but maybe I didn't go low enough with the advertised bandwidth. When the 0.2.4 compilation is done (it's still chugging along) I'll try going lower and see if it helps. Chris On 14 October 2013 21:38, Logforme

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Chris Whittleston
Ok - I have 0.2.4.17-rc built and running on the Pi - I'll give it 24-48 hours to see if the same problem with sudden increases in the number of circuits happens again, then try the MaxAdvertisedBandwidth setting in case it helps. Will drop feedback here in a couple of days - thanks for the help a

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Dan Staples
In my experience, setting the bandwidth advertising options does nothing to stop the "storms" of circuit creation requests. It *will* affect the *average* bandwidth used by your relay, but every once in a while, I'll still get circuit-creation storms that completely overwhelm my RPi and knock i

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Chris Whittleston
Do you think it might help to restart tor every 24 hours or so using cron Dan - or would that adversely affect the network too much/not actually help? On 14 Oct 2013 22:32, "Dan Staples" wrote: > In my experience, setting the bandwidth advertising options does > nothing to stop the "storms" of ci

Re: [tor-relays] Botnet issues and upgrading to 0.2.4.x

2013-10-14 Thread Dan Staples
I don't think it would make a difference. When my relay is experiencing a circuit-creation storm, I've restarted Tor, and even stopped it for a few minutes, but as soon as it comes back online, it gets slammed again. Only leaving it offline for an hour or so and then turning it back on seems to