[tor-relays] Drop in relay count

2015-05-03 Thread Linus Nordberg
Hi, Looking at the graphs showing the number of relays in the network it seems like we've lost about 500 (-7%) relays since the beginning of this year. https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html?graph=networksize&start=2015-01-01&end=2015-05-03 https://metrics.torproject.org/networksiz

Re: [tor-relays] Drop in relay count

2015-05-03 Thread Steve Snyder
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 10:08am, "Linus Nordberg" said: > Hi, > > Looking at the graphs showing the number of relays in the network it > seems like we've lost about 500 (-7%) relays since the beginning of this > year. > > > https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html?graph=networksize&sta

Re: [tor-relays] Determining geographical locations for a new exit relay would help most

2015-05-03 Thread Seth
On Sat, 02 May 2015 14:37:04 -0700, nusenu wrote: Is there a specific reason why you limit yourself to vultr? Yes, there are several. * Price (hardware bang for the buck. SSD, 1000GB bw/mo in most locations. Starter pkg is $5/mo) * Features/usability (really like their control panel and web

[tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Matthew Finkel
Hi Ops, We recently began responding to t-shirt requests again. Sorry for the long silence. There's been a lot happening around here but not enough time or people to do everything, so the t-shirt requests simply remained untouched. But, despite the overload, t-shirts are important because they are

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread I
Matt, Thanks for handling the backlog of t-shirts as they are important as an acknowledgement of valuable contributions. Isn't the value of the t-shirt disproportionate to the trouble you're going to to give them out? If the weather message offering the t-shirt is answered by the same address

Re: [tor-relays] Determining geographical locations for a new exit relay would help most

2015-05-03 Thread nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > * Price (hardware bang for the buck. SSD, 1000GB bw/mo in most > locations. Starter pkg is $5/mo) I'd say 7$ for 2TB/mo on 1GB RAM is expensive if you compare it with 100mbps unmetered and lets say you are able to saturate ~50% = ~30TB/mo (~50 mp

Re: [tor-relays] Drop in relay count

2015-05-03 Thread nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > Looking at the graphs showing the number of relays in the network > it seems like we've lost about 500 (-7%) relays since the beginning > of this year. > > https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html?graph=networksize&start=2015-01-01&end=2015

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 10:26:52AM -0800, I wrote: > Matt, > > Thanks for handling the backlog of t-shirts as they are important as an > acknowledgement of valuable contributions. > > Isn't the value of the t-shirt disproportionate to the trouble you're going > to to give them out? > If the wea

Re: [tor-relays] Determining geographical locations for a new exit relay would help most

2015-05-03 Thread Ethan Rose
OVH is pretty good value, CAD$2.99/mo for 1GB RAM and unlimited transfer at 100Mbps (it’s speed limited after 10,000GB) and both IPv4/6. However there are 424 OVH relays across 12 countries might not fit with your goal to add more diversity https://compass.torproject.org/#?exit_filter=all_rela

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Aaron Hopkins
On Sun, 3 May 2015, Matthew Finkel wrote: Assuming the path to their data dir is /var/lib/tor, we ask them to run: Please don't get in the habit of asking relay operators through e-mail to run complex bash command lines as root. As a security practice, this is terrible. (How do you know the

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Sebastian Urbach
On May 3, 2015 7:45:39 PM Matthew Finkel wrote: Hi Matthew, Hi Ops, We recently began responding to t-shirt requests again. Sorry for the long silence. There's been a lot happening around here but not enough 0> time or people to do everything, so the t-shirt requests simply remained untouch

Re: [tor-relays] Determining geographical locations for a new exit relay would help most

2015-05-03 Thread nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > OVH is pretty good value, > > CAD$2.99/mo for 1GB RAM and unlimited transfer at 100Mbps (it’s > speed limited after 10,000GB) and both IPv4/6. > > However there are 424 OVH relays across 12 countries might not fit > with your goal to add more di

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Roger Dingledine
Matt: Thanks for leading us forward on the tshirt topic! I still, alas, have a pile of tshirt requests from Jan-Mar that I should collate and forward to you. On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 10:26:52AM -0800, I wrote: > Isn't the value of the t-shirt disproportionate to the trouble you're >going to to give

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 12:05:49PM -0700, Aaron Hopkins wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 2015, Matthew Finkel wrote: > > >Assuming the path to their data dir is /var/lib/tor, we ask them to run: > > Please don't get in the habit of asking relay operators through e-mail to > run complex bash command lines a

Re: [tor-relays] Drop in relay count

2015-05-03 Thread syndikal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 nusenu wrote: > > it seems like we've lost about 500 (-7%) relays since the beginning > > of this year. the Tor network recently lost a large amount of relays (~75 or more) due to BadExit attacks. this may account for a large sum of the disappear

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 09:18:30PM +0200, Sebastian Urbach wrote: > On May 3, 2015 7:45:39 PM Matthew Finkel wrote: > > Hi Matthew, > > >Hi Ops, > > > >We recently began responding to t-shirt requests again. Sorry for the > >long silence. There's been a lot happening around here but not enough >

Re: [tor-relays] Drop in relay count

2015-05-03 Thread Linus Nordberg
"Steve Snyder" wrote Sun, 3 May 2015 10:40:59 -0400 (EDT): | My uninformed guess would be that the higher minimum bandwidth requirements in v0.2.6.x forced out the marginal relays. Interesting. I'll see if I can find out when a majority of directory authorities upgraded to 0.2.6.x.

Re: [tor-relays] Drop in relay count

2015-05-03 Thread Linus Nordberg
nusenu wrote Sun, 03 May 2015 19:06:39 +: | > Looking at the graphs showing the total relay bandwidth of the | > network it seems like the advertised bandwidth has increased with | > about 25 Mbps (+23%). | | I doubt that 25 Mpbs is 23% of the tor network capacity, I guess it | should say GB

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 08:20:54PM +, Matthew Finkel wrote: > On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 12:05:49PM -0700, Aaron Hopkins wrote: > > On Sun, 3 May 2015, Matthew Finkel wrote: > > > > >Assuming the path to their data dir is /var/lib/tor, we ask them to run: > > > > Please don't get in the habit of

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread JovianMallard
Matt, Inspired by the options to confirm domain ownership with Google, Could you ask the relay operator to include a randomly generated (by you) token in their contact field? It may take a while to propagate and it requires action on the operator's part, but it's not difficult and I expect it prov

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
Matthew Finkel schreef op 03/05/15 om 14:47: On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 08:20:54PM +, Matthew Finkel wrote: On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 12:05:49PM -0700, Aaron Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 3 May 2015, Matthew Finkel wrote: Assuming the path to their data dir is /var/lib/tor, we ask them to run: Plea

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 03.05.2015 um 22:49 schrieb Matthew Finkel: > This requires that > operators trust us, so letting anyone help take care of these requests > is not wise. Maybe I'm unique with this opinion, but usually I trust groups open to helping hands more than those who consider them selfs to be wiser than

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread I
Everyone, Could the relay log have something copied (such as the key) from it and emailed with the claim as only the operator can see the relay? Robert ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/m

[tor-relays] Why can't I see authorities bandwith stats

2015-05-03 Thread Dedalo
Hi, I was making some changes in my relay configuration and I made some queries in GLOBE and ATLAS and something happened. I noticed that all authorities are not showing bandwidth stats from the last week and I was wondering why. Regards, Dedalo. -- twitter: @SeguridadBlanca Github: Dedal0 Blog

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread teor
> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 17:44:39 + > From: Matthew Finkel > … > > Another disadvantage of this is PSS wasn't implemented in openssl's > apps until 1.0.1. I wonder how many relays are running on servers which > are still using openssl 0.9.8 (and 1.0.0?). For these servers we can > fallback on

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:46:01AM +0200, Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 03.05.2015 um 22:49 schrieb Matthew Finkel: > > This requires that > > operators trust us, so letting anyone help take care of these requests > > is not wise. > > Maybe I'm unique with this opinion, but usually I trust groups open

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread I
Matt, How many shirts are sent in a year? What would taking it on entail? Robert > Absolutely, but what's the cost? Our current solution using Printfection > is neither ideal nor cheap, but it is convenient. Tor pays Printfection > a bunch of money and Printfection creates the t-shirts, gives

Re: [tor-relays] Determining geographical locations for a new exit relay would help most

2015-05-03 Thread Seth
On Sun, 03 May 2015 11:50:25 -0700, nusenu wrote: I'd say 7$ for 2TB/mo on 1GB RAM is expensive if you compare it with 100mbps unmetered and lets say you are able to saturate ~50% = ~30TB/mo (~50 mpbs* in one direction) for ~15$/mo with 1GB RAM (in HU, 0.6% CW). Can't argue with that. The dif

Re: [tor-relays] Determining geographical locations for a new exit relay would help most

2015-05-03 Thread Seth
On Sat, 02 May 2015 00:52:07 -0700, Geo Rift wrote: I would love to see some more nodes in Australia. I'm located in Perth and the speed of the network it horrible. Tim, just deployed an exit node to Sydney location, feel free to test it out: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/E1E1059D

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 06:17:20PM -0400, JovianMallard wrote: > Matt, > > Inspired by the options to confirm domain ownership with Google, > Could you ask the relay operator to include a randomly generated (by > you) token in their contact field? It may take a while to propagate and > it requires

Re: [tor-relays] T-shirts and Confirming Relay Control

2015-05-03 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 03:31:01PM -0700, Tom van der Woerdt wrote: > Matthew Finkel schreef op 03/05/15 om 14:47: > >On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 08:20:54PM +, Matthew Finkel wrote: > >>On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 12:05:49PM -0700, Aaron Hopkins wrote: > >>>On Sun, 3 May 2015, Matthew Finkel wrote: > >