Re: [tor-relays] Opt-In Trial: Fallback Directory Mirrors

2016-06-21 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 18 Dec 2015, at 02:03, Logforme wrote: > > My relay, Logforme (855BC2DABE24C861CD887DB9B2E950424B49FC34), is not on > the list even though it fits all the criteria, except the HSDir flag > which I lost when I upgraded to the latest version. > Hint, hint, Mr Roger "We should

Re: [tor-relays] Handling abuse - like to get your help please

2016-06-21 Thread Pascal Schuppli
On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 09:52:43 AM Tristan wrote: > But the point of Tor is to promote open access to the Internet. Once Tor > starts filtering traffic, it's no better than the government censorship so > many people use Tor to get around. They'd go from one filter to another. This is not such

Re: [tor-relays] Relay Fingerprint Changed After Updates

2016-06-21 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 12 Jun 2016, at 03:10, Brian Kroll wrote: > > Hi All, > > I had a weird event happen where the fingerprint of my relay changed > after updates to the OS. It sounds like your data directory was either erased, or configured to be a different directory. Did you

Re: [tor-relays] Handling abuse - like to get your help please

2016-06-21 Thread Gumby
Exits are badly needed, but is it economically feasible to change to a relay? Based on your cost, and the ISP attitude to a relay only, does it make sense to be a relay instead - and still provide for the Tor community? I would be curious also to know if many of the ISP's have a higher level

Re: [tor-relays] Handling abuse - like to get your help please

2016-06-21 Thread BlinkTor
If you know your ISP, the best thing to do is try to schedule a face-to-face meeting with their management and security personnel. Be prepared to explain Tor, its essential function, and both the pros and cons of running an exit. Then listen to their concerns, and try to address them.

Re: [tor-relays] Handling abuse - like to get your help please

2016-06-21 Thread Tristan
But the point of Tor is to promote open access to the Internet. Once Tor starts filtering traffic, it's no better than the government censorship so many people use Tor to get around. They'd go from one filter to another. I understand your point, but I don't think we can accurately detect

Re: [tor-relays] Handling abuse - like to get your help please

2016-06-21 Thread gerard
If it is Tor philosophy to prevent criminal activity then should not tor develop other tools apart from port and IP blocking? I am less certain that we can ring our hands of this issue. We will have fewer and fewer exit nodes until the gross attacks like multiple login attempts are restrained

Re: [tor-relays] Handling abuse - like to get your help please

2016-06-21 Thread pa011
Jon, all others, yes I understand what you say and obviously have to accept the ISP's wishes (order). But before giving up a 100Mbit/s exit I would like to understand more about the ISP's reasons and burdens: - is it just the more work for rather poor money handling(forwarding) those abuses ? -

Re: [tor-relays] Handling abuse - like to get your help please

2016-06-21 Thread BlinkTor
On Jun 20, 2016, at 4:19 AM, pa011 wrote: > > Hi all, > > thanks again for your hints - in my case they obviously find Tor less > fancy - their response today is following: > > "Hello. > You need to take steps to ensure that the complaint would be no longer > received. > This