Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Igor Mitrofanov
Alison, can you please share a link to the results of 'user testing as well as research on usability, accessibility, and localization'? I most definitely welcome the idea of making Tor look modern (and would like to help if I can) but it would be good to see what standards the development team is f

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Mirimir
On 03/27/2019 03:50 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > On 2019-03-27 16:34, Mirimir wrote: >> On 03/27/2019 09:10 AM, Ralph Seichter wrote: >>> Not sure if this is the right place to vent, but here goes: >>> >>> Whoever changed the Tor website's design seems to a) have a serious >>> vision impairment and b)

[tor-relays] New TOR

2019-03-27 Thread TERRY McKINNEY
Say what you like.Tor was great.Now it isn’t.I don’t know code.I do know function. terryGmckinney 201-8725 Oak st Vancouver,BC.Canada V6P4B4 (604)2639203 ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/ma

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread I
Thanks. I think that would be better called Guides.-Original Message-From: pter...@gmail.comOn Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 22:10, I wrote:>> Where is the equivalent of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en?https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en (From theDocumentation lin

[tor-relays] Relay operators meetup Valencia (28.03.2019)

2019-03-27 Thread Vasilis
Dear Tor friends and relay operators, Tomorrow (28.03.2019) a relay operators meetup will take place at HackerspaceVLC. When: Thursday, March 28th, 2019 Time: 18:30 Where: Hackerspace Valencia Calle Francisco Martínez, 19, Bajo CP 46020, Valencia (Benimaclet), España Map coordinates: https://www

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul

2019-03-27 Thread Jordan
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 05:13:00PM +, nusenu wrote: > Matthew Finkel: > > Please be respectful. The tone of this message is disrespectful > > Thank you Matthew for spelling that out, I found this email > and in particular "who deserves punishment?" rather harsh. > > > > -- > https://twitt

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Dave Warren
On 2019-03-27 16:34, Mirimir wrote: On 03/27/2019 09:10 AM, Ralph Seichter wrote: Not sure if this is the right place to vent, but here goes: Whoever changed the Tor website's design seems to a) have a serious vision impairment and b) done his utmost to hide access to the Tor source code. I th

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 22:10, I wrote: > > Where is the equivalent of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en? https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en (From the Documentation link at the top) ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@li

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Mirimir
On 03/27/2019 09:10 AM, Ralph Seichter wrote: > Not sure if this is the right place to vent, but here goes: > > Whoever changed the Tor website's design seems to a) have a serious > vision impairment and b) done his utmost to hide access to the Tor > source code. > > I think the site feels dumbed

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread I
 Where is the equivalent of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en? ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Alison Macrina: > I agree with Matthew that your email was very rude. I don't. "Satire, artistic form, chiefly literary and dramatic, in which human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, parody, ca

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Alison Macrina
Ralph Seichter: > * Matthew Finkel: > >> Please be respectful. The tone of this message is disrespectful of the >> time, effort, and skill that went into launching the new website. It's >> unfortunate you do not appreciate or like the new site, but that does >> not excuse you. > > Disrespectful f

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul

2019-03-27 Thread nusenu
Matthew Finkel: > Please be respectful. The tone of this message is disrespectful Thank you Matthew for spelling that out, I found this email and in particular "who deserves punishment?" rather harsh. -- https://twitter.com/nusenu_ https://mastodon.social/@nusenu signature.asc Description:

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Matthew Finkel: > Please be respectful. The tone of this message is disrespectful of the > time, effort, and skill that went into launching the new website. It's > unfortunate you do not appreciate or like the new site, but that does > not excuse you. Disrespectful for you, maybe. I did not nam

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Matthew Finkel
Hi Ralph, On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 05:10:08PM +0100, Ralph Seichter wrote: > Not sure if this is the right place to vent, but here goes: > > Whoever changed the Tor website's design seems to a) have a serious > vision impairment and b) done his utmost to hide access to the Tor > source code. Plea

Re: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Volker Mink
It looks like fastfood for consumers :) But any TOR consumer is a good consumer :)   Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. März 2019 um 17:10 Uhr Von: "Ralph Seichter" An: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Betreff: [tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment? Not sure if this is the right place

[tor-relays] Tor website overhaul -- who deserves punishment?

2019-03-27 Thread Ralph Seichter
Not sure if this is the right place to vent, but here goes: Whoever changed the Tor website's design seems to a) have a serious vision impairment and b) done his utmost to hide access to the Tor source code. I think the site feels dumbed down to cater only to those with the shortest attention spa