[tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread uf
Hi all, I've been running two exit relays, [1] and [2], at the German company Webtropia [3] for the past two weeks. Things went quite nice and smoothly, the speed of the server was decent and the network great, pushing quite some terabyte. Before renting the server, I told them what I wanted to d

[tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread tor
You somewhat made a mistake here - you've got to have an exit policy that (minimally) rejects ports 25 and 465, or else your relay becomes a giant abuse tool for spammers, scammers, and phishers instead of what you intended it to be (which was a standard-functioning Tor relay). You might tr

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread krishna e bera
On 14-07-30 05:11 AM, t...@t-3.net wrote: > > You somewhat made a mistake here - you've got to have an exit policy > that (minimally) rejects ports 25 and 465, or else your relay becomes a > giant abuse tool for spammers, scammers, and phishers instead of what > you intended it to be (which was a

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread Lunar
t...@t-3.net: > You somewhat made a mistake here - you've got to have an exit policy that > (minimally) rejects ports 25 and 465, or else your relay becomes a giant > abuse tool for spammers, scammers, and phishers instead of what you intended > it to be (which was a standard-functioning Tor relay)

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread tor
IMO, even relaying SMTP-like for the email which typically requires auth first isn't a great idea if there is any concern about an upstream getting abuse complaints about a relay (such as a leased box). A frequent way that spammers get their garbage out these days is to compromise a user ac

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread s7r
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/30/2014 10:34 AM, u...@riseup.net wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been running two exit relays, [1] and [2], at the German > company Webtropia [3] for the past two weeks. Things went quite > nice and smoothly, the speed of the server was decent and the

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread tor
Let's not confuse two things, here. The customer wanting to host a Tor exit relay is a different service request than wanting to run a wide-open SMTP relay. No reputable ISP would agree to host an open SMTP relay and I'm sure this one did not knowingly do so. It would be unfortunate for ISPs

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread tor
At this point the isp is clearly the victim! This guy doesn't have his own ips and ipv4 is rare, so risking a complete ip range to get on blacklists will be unacceptable for any company. I can fully understand them, because dealing with spamhaus mafia is a nightmare. Lets hope they wont getting tor