[tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread uf
Hi all, I've been running two exit relays, [1] and [2], at the German company Webtropia [3] for the past two weeks. Things went quite nice and smoothly, the speed of the server was decent and the network great, pushing quite some terabyte. Before renting the server, I told them what I wanted to

[tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread tor
You somewhat made a mistake here - you've got to have an exit policy that (minimally) rejects ports 25 and 465, or else your relay becomes a giant abuse tool for spammers, scammers, and phishers instead of what you intended it to be (which was a standard-functioning Tor relay). You might

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread krishna e bera
On 14-07-30 05:11 AM, t...@t-3.net wrote: You somewhat made a mistake here - you've got to have an exit policy that (minimally) rejects ports 25 and 465, or else your relay becomes a giant abuse tool for spammers, scammers, and phishers instead of what you intended it to be (which was a

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread Lunar
t...@t-3.net: You somewhat made a mistake here - you've got to have an exit policy that (minimally) rejects ports 25 and 465, or else your relay becomes a giant abuse tool for spammers, scammers, and phishers instead of what you intended it to be (which was a standard-functioning Tor relay).

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread tor
IMO, even relaying SMTP-like for the email which typically requires auth first isn't a great idea if there is any concern about an upstream getting abuse complaints about a relay (such as a leased box). A frequent way that spammers get their garbage out these days is to compromise a user

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread s7r
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/30/2014 10:34 AM, u...@riseup.net wrote: Hi all, I've been running two exit relays, [1] and [2], at the German company Webtropia [3] for the past two weeks. Things went quite nice and smoothly, the speed of the server was decent and the

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread tor
Let's not confuse two things, here. The customer wanting to host a Tor exit relay is a different service request than wanting to run a wide-open SMTP relay. No reputable ISP would agree to host an open SMTP relay and I'm sure this one did not knowingly do so. It would be unfortunate for

Re: [tor-relays] German company Webtropia: Terminated contract without notice because of abuse

2014-07-30 Thread tor
At this point the isp is clearly the victim! This guy doesn't have his own ips and ipv4 is rare, so risking a complete ip range to get on blacklists will be unacceptable for any company. I can fully understand them, because dealing with spamhaus mafia is a nightmare. Lets hope they wont getting