Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote:
On 06.01.2013 20:20, tor-admin wrote:
If yes the law is pretty clear in § 6 that such a
service has to be registered at the Bundesnetzagentur if it is done
commercially.
The second part of your sentence here is fundamentally wrong.
In
Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote:
On 06.01.2013 20:29, tor-admin wrote:
On Wednesday 02 January 2013 13:34:27 Fabian Keil wrote:
While I was living in Overath I registered my relays with the
Police in Rösrath (who always acted very professionally and respectful).
Good point. I
On Wednesday 02 January 2013 14:56:59 Moritz Bartl wrote:
There is a fundamental legal difference between operating Internet
Access Providers and Internet Service Providers. As a Tor exit, you
should and want to be judged as a service provider. The key difference
is that Access Providers give
On Wednesday 02 January 2013 13:34:27 Fabian Keil wrote:
While I was living in Overath I registered my relays with the
Police in Rösrath (who always acted very professionally and respectful).
Good point. I never thought about pro actively informing the local police
about my nodes. Will check
the guys from opentracker told us at 24c3 that they have made good
experiences with informing their upstream provider about their
activities. that way their provider forwarded all abuse-mails directly
to them.
events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Fahrplan/events/2355.en.html
this might help with
On Sunday 06 January 2013 20:35:25 Markus Drenger wrote:
the guys from opentracker told us at 24c3 that they have made good
experiences with informing their upstream provider about their
activities. that way their provider forwarded all abuse-mails directly
to them.
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 08:20:44PM +0100, tor-admin wrote:
Whereas service providers are bound to the Telemediengesetz:
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tmg/
Most interesting for exit operators within German borders are:
§8 - no liability for forwarded content (compare §512a DMCA USA)
On 06.01.2013 20:20, tor-admin wrote:
Access Providers are bound to the Telekommunikationsgesetz:
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tkg_2004/
Reading the law it is still unclear to me if a Tor node operator is a
Diensteanbieter (service provider) as defined by the
Telekommunikationsgesetz.
On 06.01.2013 20:29, tor-admin wrote:
On Wednesday 02 January 2013 13:34:27 Fabian Keil wrote:
While I was living in Overath I registered my relays with the
Police in Rösrath (who always acted very professionally and respectful).
Good point. I never thought about pro actively informing the
On 06.01.2013 21:01, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Whereas service providers are bound to the Telemediengesetz:
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tmg/
Most interesting for exit operators within German borders are:
§8 - no liability for forwarded content (compare §512a DMCA USA)
Don't forget
tor-admin tor-ad...@torland.me wrote:
this is a question more specific for the German jurisdiction. At the 29C3 in
Hamburg I attended a interesting talk about open WIFI (http://is.gd/9G8AVA
unfortunately in German) who was given by Reto Mantz
(http://www.offenenetze.de/).
He gave the
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