While you're busy doing all this writing and signing you need
to post the results up on the wiki, the tor relay banner page,
EFF legal info/opinion page update, etc.
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On 2015-04-23 13:57, Moritz Bartl wrote:
On 04/23/2015 10:20 AM, Jan GUTH wrote:
So, I'll get in touch with our lawyer with EFF. Is there anyone else
within EU, whom could certify them what Tor is and what it is capable of
and what not? Moritz?
...
I'm happy to write something as
On 20/04/15 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote:
Hi
I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena
regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania. They want to know the real
IP behind the Tor Network. I mailed them what Tor is and why I can't
help them in identifying this person.
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Zack Weinberg:
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Tyler Durden vi...@enn.lu
wrote:
I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena
regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania
Just FYI, Washington doesn't appear to have
On 20/04/15 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote:
Hi
I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena
regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania. They want to know the real
IP behind the Tor Network. I mailed them what Tor is and why I can't
help them in identifying this person.
Sounds like they don't know what Tor is, or they didn't notice your host
is a Tor exit node.
Might be a good idea to address both issues by sending them a link to
the Tor documentation and configuring a better reverse DNS record for
your IP address.
Best regards,
Alexander
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Hi,
The counterpart we need to contribute is a
letter by our lawyer and favorably a letter from EFF or some other
bigger organization guaranteeing Tor is what it is and we as client do
not try to fool them.
as the US government sponsored (parts of) the Tor development - what about
giving
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:47:17AM +0200, re...@mobtm.com wrote:
Hi,
The counterpart we need to contribute is a
letter by our lawyer and favorably a letter from EFF or some other
bigger organization guaranteeing Tor is what it is and we as client do
not try to fool them.
as the US
On 04/23/2015 10:20 AM, Jan GUTH wrote:
So, I'll get in touch with our lawyer with EFF. Is there anyone else
within EU, whom could certify them what Tor is and what it is capable of
and what not? Moritz?
Depends on what convinces them. :-) Sounds like it may make sense to get
a generic letter
Now Alistaro (our ISP) wants the IPs as well or they will probably shut
down the server tomorrow.
Well that escalated quickly.
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All I can say is reach out to EFF and Moritz.
I am surprised and saddened to hear this.
Have you told your ISP about Tor? Did you tell them in advance of
setting up the relay what it is, and what it is not?
Kind regards,
Matt
Speak Freely
Tyler Durden:
Now Alistaro (our ISP) wants the IPs
I'm in contact with Moritz and yes we told them from the beginning what
our organization does and what Tor is. We had no problems so far. I'm as
surprised as you guys. Voxility/Alistaro was always very Tor friendly.
On 2015-04-22 19:08, Speak Freely wrote:
All I can say is reach out to EFF and
On 2015-04-20 08:32, Tyler Durden wrote:
Hi
I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena
regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania. They want to know the real
IP behind the Tor Network. I mailed them what Tor is and why I can't
help them in identifying this person.
Mega? A dotcom? Really people? Come on, that's soo legacy.
Use what your mama gave you... put it on a hidden service.
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Am 22.04.2015 um 21:39 schrieb grarpamp:
Use what your mama gave you... put it on a hidden service.
Great idea: http://tke3zwmd6mnvq6jp.onion/AlistarSecuritySubpoena.pdf
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Thanks Moritz.
This is good information.
I do see both sides of the coin, as American courts often do seem to be
attempting to override international law. But, when someone spits in
your face, it's rarely a good idea to spit back.
If we all took the position of 'Teacher' when these things
On 04/20/2015 09:10 PM, Thomas White wrote:
If you don't plan on visiting the US anytime soon, you may do what I
do. I remind them where on the map they are, where on the map I am,
where their borders are and an illustration of where they can shove it.
I don't think this is a good strategy.
On 2015-04-20 22:29, Zack Weinberg wrote:
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Tyler Durden vi...@enn.lu wrote:
I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena
regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania
Just FYI, Washington doesn't appear to have anything to do with
this. The
On 4/21/15, Dave Warren da...@hireahit.com wrote:
On 2015-04-20 10:31, Speak Freely wrote:
A foreign sovereign can command anything to anyone... without a
reasonable expectation that anyone will follow it.
Even in Canada, I am not obliged to respond to American subpoenas unless
and until my
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Tyler Durden vi...@enn.lu wrote:
I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena
regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania
Just FYI, Washington doesn't appear to have anything to do with
this. The subpoena is on the letterhead of an office of
Hi
I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena
regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania. They want to know the real
IP behind the Tor Network. I mailed them what Tor is and why I can't
help them in identifying this person. Nevertheless I will give you the
link to the full
A foreign sovereign can command anything to anyone... without a
reasonable expectation that anyone will follow it.
Even in Canada, I am not obliged to respond to American subpoenas unless
and until my government commands me to. Only your sovereign can command
you to do anything. A foreign
Hey Moritz,
did you react to this subpoena?
What consequences had it for you?
2015-04-20 18:48 GMT+02:00 Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net:
Hi Tyler,
Thanks for sharing. I've been reluctant to publish ours, because with
the wrong interpretation -- without relating it to the sheer amount of
Hi Tyler,
Thanks for sharing. I've been reluctant to publish ours, because with
the wrong interpretation -- without relating it to the sheer amount of
data we push -- it may paint a negative picture on Tor.
Also, funny how they simply assume how you (in Luxembourg) and the
hoster (in Romania)
On 2015-04-20 10:31, Speak Freely wrote:
A foreign sovereign can command anything to anyone... without a
reasonable expectation that anyone will follow it.
Even in Canada, I am not obliged to respond to American subpoenas unless
and until my government commands me to. Only your sovereign can
Dave,
I missed a required comment on my post, so thanks!
I am not a lawyer, and my comments should not be taken as legal advice.
The Law of Nations is more or less black and white, but the politicians
and lawyers have mucked the lines very well.
Thomas,
I like your style. They are well aware
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