Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-27 Thread lists
On 22.02.2020 08:42, teor wrote: Tor also supports "%include (path)" lines in torrcs, which include the contents of the file at that path. (If you have logrotate installed, it should issue a HUP every day to rotate tor's logs. So maybe you can skip that step.) It's a bit of a pain, I know.

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-23 Thread Michael Gerstacker
I just found out that i can have more than one MyFamily line specified in the torrc. nusenu could you please check with your tool that everything is correct now? Greatz Michael ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-23 Thread Michael Gerstacker
Am So., 23. Feb. 2020 um 11:51 Uhr schrieb Moritz Bartl < mor...@torservers.net>: > On 22.02.20 15:51, Michael Gerstacker wrote: > > I am the operator of my relays so if i for whatever reason decide to not > > publish that i run a bigger family then this should be my own decision.> > > If the

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-23 Thread Toralf Förster
On 2/23/20 11:51 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > Cheers, and thanks for trying to run relays in a good fashion :) > > Moritz (y) -- Toralf signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-23 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 22.02.20 15:51, Michael Gerstacker wrote: > I am the operator of my relays so if i for whatever reason decide to not > publish that i run a bigger family then this should be my own decision.> > If the torproject needs these information urgently they need to force it > for example with a relay

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread Michael Gerstacker
Am So., 23. Feb. 2020 um 01:55 Uhr schrieb teor : > Hi, > > I've gone a few emails back up the thread, because the risk > analysis is missing some really important factors. > > And just some reminders: > > Some users depend on the tor network for their safety. > > Relay operators take some risks,

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread teor
Hi, I've gone a few emails back up the thread, because the risk analysis is missing some really important factors. And just some reminders: Some users depend on the tor network for their safety. Relay operators take some risks, but we do our best to reduce those risks. MyFamily is about user

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread Michael Gerstacker
Am Sa., 22. Feb. 2020 um 17:11 Uhr schrieb nusenu : > Michael Gerstacker: > >>> But as long as my family is still a small > >> It is rather hard, time consuming and error prone > >> to asses group sizes without proper MyFamily declarations. > >> > > I am the operator of my relays so if i for

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread nusenu
Michael Gerstacker: >>> But as long as my family is still a small >> It is rather hard, time consuming and error prone >> to asses group sizes without proper MyFamily declarations. >> > I am the operator of my relays so if i for whatever reason decide to not > publish that i run a bigger family

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread Michael Gerstacker
Am Sa., 22. Feb. 2020 um 15:17 Uhr schrieb nusenu : > >> - risk reduction for tor users > >> MyFamily declarations allow the tor client software to automatically > >> detect relay families when creating circuits to > >> avoid using multiple relays from the same operator in a single circuit. > >>

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread nusenu
>> - risk reduction for tor users >> MyFamily declarations allow the tor client software to automatically >> detect relay families when creating circuits to >> avoid using multiple relays from the same operator in a single circuit. >> > > This should not matter if the operator is not malicious

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread Michael Gerstacker
 Hi nusenu Am Fr., 21. Feb. 2020 um 22:24 Uhr schrieb nusenu : > Hi Michael, > > > Last week i got an email with a warning that some of my relays are > > missing the correct MyFamily setup and that i am a risk to do > > end-to-end correlation attacks together with a list of all relays i > >

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread nusenu
Toralf Förster: > On 2/22/20 10:55 AM, nusenu wrote: >> You can preemptively generate as many relay keys as you want and >> use their fingerprints in MyFamily so you don't have to bother about >> changing old >> configs when you add new relays as long as you use these preemptively >>

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread Toralf Förster
On 2/22/20 10:55 AM, nusenu wrote: > You can preemptively generate as many relay keys as you want and > use their fingerprints in MyFamily so you don't have to bother about changing > old > configs when you add new relays as long as you use these preemptively > generated keys. > And if

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-22 Thread nusenu
> Secondly, even though not recommended at all, MyFamily accepts nicknames; > If there's no practical way for you to automate it (such as to set up a > centralized system to manage torrcs and push them to hosts), you can make a > MyFamily like this: > > MyFamily

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-21 Thread teor
Hi Michael, > On 22 Feb 2020, at 11:30, Roman Mamedov wrote: > >>> I already knew that not all of my relays have a correct MyFamily setup >>> because as long as i am not sure if they will stay i usually dont >>> include them in MyFamily because it is a pain to edit every torrc >> >> Yes,

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-21 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 21:23:00 + nusenu wrote: > > I already knew that not all of my relays have a correct MyFamily setup > > because as long as i am not sure if they will stay i usually dont > > include them in MyFamily because it is a pain to edit every torrc > > Yes, manually managing

Re: [tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-21 Thread nusenu
Hi Michael, > Last week i got an email with a warning that some of my relays are > missing the correct MyFamily setup and that i am a risk to do > end-to-end correlation attacks together with a list of all relays i > operate plus one relay which uses the same name than i use but is not > operated

[tor-relays] Why MyFamily?

2020-02-21 Thread Michael Gerstacker
Last week i got an email with a warning that some of my relays are missing the correct MyFamily setup and that i am a risk to do end-to-end correlation attacks together with a list of all relays i operate plus one relay which uses the same name than i use but is not operated by me. I already knew