Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-08 Thread Javier Bassi
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Mr Dash Four wrote: > Nope. I am well aware of this and it isn't an issue which just popped > yesterday or a week ago - it has been going on for months (scraping Google, > that is). I am also aware that Scroogle has a limited (I think about 6-7) > number of servers.

Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-08 Thread Paul Syverson
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 07:59:08PM -0800, Mike Perry wrote: > Thus spake Andrew Lewman (and...@torproject.org): > > > On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:13:44 +0100 > > Moritz Bartl wrote: > > > I believe it's more important to make it easy for people to detect Tor > > > and deal with it differently in the f

Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-08 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Moritz Bartl (mor...@torservers.net): > On 08.02.2012 19:16, Mike Perry wrote: > > One of my goals is to provide an alternative to captchas and IP bans in > > the form of computational proof of work: > > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/4666 > > I don't see why all Torbu

Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-08 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Andrew Lewman (and...@torproject.org): > On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:13:44 +0100 > Moritz Bartl wrote: > > I believe it's more important to make it easy for people to detect Tor > > and deal with it differently in the first place. The second step then > > is to provide useful alternatives t

Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-08 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:13:44 +0100 Moritz Bartl wrote: > I believe it's more important to make it easy for people to detect Tor > and deal with it differently in the first place. The second step then > is to provide useful alternatives to blocking. Perhaps someone wants to implement nymble, http:

Re: [tor-talk] Basic Orbot question

2012-02-08 Thread Nathan Freitas
This is a tricky issue in that what you are seeing is just the Orbot background service loaded in memory, but without it actually doing any thing at all. Android will always start the service on boot, but by deselecting the check box for auto start, the Orbot service knows not to start the conne

Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-08 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 09.02.2012 01:19, Mr Dash Four wrote: > What I meant with my initial post though is that Scroogle started > blocking tor exit nodes recently - about a week or so ago. One of the Scroogle guys posted on this list in the past about his efforts to allow legitimate Tor users. Probably a good idea

Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-08 Thread Mr Dash Four
Currently, what happens is that sites just ban/blacklist the IPs, often automatically and "forever". Yep! Scroogle Scroogle is currently having trouble scraping Google. Maybe Dash Fours problems with it are unrelated to Tor? Nope. I am well aware of this and it isn't an issue which

[tor-talk] Basic Orbot question

2012-02-08 Thread User
In my Android phone, the option "Start Orbot on Boot" is set to off, but Orbot is always listed in "Settings" > "Applications" > "Manage Applications" > "Running", every time i turn my phone on. What's the reason for that? I don't want Orbot to run without my permission. I'm running Orbot 0.2.3

[tor-talk] TBB conflicting with FireFox as "default browser" on Mac OS X?

2012-02-08 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
Hi all, I'd file a bug, but I'm not 100% sure if this is a bug in Tor or something else. The main question I have is if something changed recently in how TBB uses Launch Services on Mac OS X. The symptoms I'm seeing is that when I send a URL to be opened by my default browser in Mac OS X, it tri

Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-08 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 08.02.2012 19:16, Mike Perry wrote: > One of my goals is to provide an alternative to captchas and IP bans in > the form of computational proof of work: > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/4666 I don't see why all Torbutton installations should constantly waste CPU cycles unless t

Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-08 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Roger Dingledine (a...@mit.edu): > On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 07:24:31PM +, Mr Dash Four wrote: > > Initially, there was a small number of these in the wild, but now it > > is widely spread - google is the main offender, but youtube (which > > is, as we all know, google-owned) and now,

Re: [tor-talk] How to use Tor Browser without TBB Bundle?

2012-02-08 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/07/2012 03:49 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > Don't know about "a script." Normally, if you want to run more > than one I think he means start-tor-browser (shell script on my box, probably a batch file on Windows). > If you were using this in a scri

Re: [tor-talk] How to use Tor Browser without TBB Bundle?

2012-02-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/8/2012 11:29 AM, The Doctor wrote: Don't know about "a script." Normally, if you want to run more than one I think he means start-tor-browser (shell script on my box, probably a batch file on Windows). If you were using this in a script, I suppose the use of -no-remote would be the sam

[tor-talk] New TorStatus protocol, website, and Android app

2012-02-08 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, you probably all know the TorStatus website [0] that lets you search the current list of Tor relays. And maybe some of you noticed last year's HFOSS project to rewrite TorStatus in Python/Django [1]. Unfortunately, both projects suffer f