Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread proper
snip I'm more worried about the risks to user anonymity. It sucks to be the user reading about some sensitive subject when your apt cron job decides to poke every package source you install from. “Oh, that guy who keeps reading about Foozer's Disease must be in the Antarctica/McMurdo

Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread proper
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com Datum: 02.03.2012 07:45:20 An: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Betreff: Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Andrew Lewman

Re: [tor-talk] irc clients and Tor

2012-03-03 Thread intrigeri
Robert Ransom wrote (20 Feb 2012 08:23:05 GMT) : torsocks 1.2-3 just hit wheezy/testing, and it works on irssi (at least as shipped in wheezy). torsocks 1.2-3~bpo60+1 is now available in squeeze-backports. ___ tor-talk mailing list

Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread grarpamp
It's lame so or so. The exit node admins will have to deal with copyright infringement complaints. 'All bulk data' was the intended meaning. Assuming copyright is not going away, certainly operators would want to see the complaint generating portion of bulk move solely and natively to the

Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread Fabian Keil
Robert Ransom rransom.8...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-03-02, Andrew Lewman and...@torproject.is wrote: The trick is, I like to think I know what I'm doing and that I'll notice if apt-get or my VM image fails to transfer untouched. Whether I'll actually notice a sophisticated exploit in deb

Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:33, pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote: The transparently proxied operating system does not know it's real external IP, only it's Tor exit IP. And can therefore never leak it's real external IP. I see this claim made all the time — is it actually true? Is Tor designed to

[tor-talk] custom icon for torbrowser?

2012-03-03 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
how about like this http://imgur.com/VFkmo this is helpful for user who has two firefox browsers - easy identification of tor-powered! -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org

Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread Andreas Krey
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:00:51 +, Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:33, pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote: The transparently proxied operating system does not know it's real external IP, only it's Tor exit IP. And can therefore never leak it's real external IP. I see this

[tor-talk] Obtain real IP behind Tor transparent proxy; was: Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread proper
The transparently proxied operating system does not know it's real external IP, only it's Tor exit IP. And can therefore never leak it's real external IP. I see this claim made all the time — is it actually true? Is Tor designed to withstand active attacks where Torified applications try

Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread proper
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:00:51 +, Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:33, pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote: The transparently proxied operating system does not know it's real external IP, only it's Tor exit IP. And can therefore never leak it's real external IP. I see this

Re: [tor-talk] node depictions in network map

2012-03-03 Thread Ed Agro
[Sending from a differentaccount, while my tormail is messed up - eliaz] The problem described below might be clearer from this copy of a screen grab showing three in-country relays appearing in the bottom-right list of Network Map: relay 1 (Online) Location: xxx IP Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread grarpamp
It's my impression that signed packages aren't a priority for the BSDs in general. It will happen when one of their mirrors gets rooted, or one of their devs gets their machine, and thus their dev account, rooted. The kernel.org, gnu/fsf and debian[?] incidents all come to mind. Too bad it

[tor-talk] Risk with transparent proxy mode [was Re:Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy]

2012-03-03 Thread coderman
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:33 AM, pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote: ... Application level leaks are problematic. We have a page which describes many of these problems including with workarounds (we recommend Tor Browser etc.). these are significant if you are mixing tor and non-tor access on the

Re: [tor-talk] Obtain real IP behind Tor transparent proxy; was: Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread coderman
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:06 AM, pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote: ... There are three ways to torify. Torified through http/socks-proxy settings and about:config, certainly not. (DNS leaks depend on about:config, which malware wouuld not honor.) this is prone to failure as you mention and easily

Re: [tor-talk] Risk with transparent proxy mode [was Re:Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy]

2012-03-03 Thread Hggiu Uizzu
coderman wrote: On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:33 AM,  pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote: ... Application level leaks are problematic. We have a page which describes many of these problems including with workarounds (we recommend Tor Browser etc.). these are significant if you are mixing tor and

Re: [tor-talk] Obtain real IP behind Tor transparent proxy; was: Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread Mansour Moufid
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, pro...@secure-mail.biz wrote: We have also a sub page TorBOX/LeakTests and all went negative. Additionally, Skype, which is known for it's ability to punch through firewalls was not able to non-torified connections. What I don't like to advertise is, that

[tor-talk] Who is 93.114.40.75? Tor check page lists it and says I'm not using Tor. Another user reported this, too.

2012-03-03 Thread ming
Who is 93.114.40.75? The Tor check page lists it and says I'm not using Tor. Another user reported this, too. I loaded the Tor check page today and it said I wasn't using Tor. The IP listed was: 93.114.40.75. I checked blutmagie's site and it said I wasn't using Tor, with the same IP address

Re: [tor-talk] Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy

2012-03-03 Thread Mansour Moufid
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Fabian Keil freebsd-lis...@fabiankeil.de wrote: Robert Ransom rransom.8...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-03-02, Andrew Lewman and...@torproject.is wrote: The trick is, I like to think I know what I'm doing and that I'll notice if apt-get or my VM image fails to

[tor-talk] TBB Users: We Need New Directions on Torifying Software! Solution Required! (Still not solved, month #3)

2012-03-03 Thread ming
This is a repost of important question NOT solved within the last two months. This is my second attempt today to send this message. Is it being deleted by moderation because TBB may be a method of eliminating Tor use outside of the browser and (maybe, IMO) the developers (may) wish to keep (a

Re: [tor-talk] TBB Users: We Need New Directions on Torifying Software! Solution Required! (Still not solved, month #3)

2012-03-03 Thread andrew
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 02:29:31AM -, m...@tormail.net wrote 1.6K bytes in 45 lines about: : This is my second attempt today to send this message. Is it being deleted : by moderation because TBB may be a method of eliminating Tor use outside : of the browser and (maybe, IMO) the developers

Re: [tor-talk] Risk with transparent proxy mode [was Re:Operating system updates / software installation behind Tor Transparent Proxy]

2012-03-03 Thread coderman
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Hggiu Uizzu torbox...@yahoo.com wrote: . We already learned about this in [1] and discussed it on our Dev page [2] (and wondered why you said /29 and not /31). some operating systems (Windows) do not support /31 host-to-host interface configurations. in which