Re: [tor-talk] Secure email with limited usable metadata

2013-07-02 Thread Andreas Krey
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 22:18:06 +, coderman wrote: ... you should assume this number will always approach anything greater than zero; and how do you handle a reduction? axe clients without prejudice? Put new clients into the next instance of this service, formally operated by someone else?

[tor-talk] The Treat of Quantum Computing and Annealing, and a possible solution - NTRU for Tor

2013-07-02 Thread Todd Hubers
Do governments already have a 1M bit Quantum Annealer (like the DWave), capable of breaking RSA and ECC? Well, there's an open source implementation, NTRU, which is not known to be susceptible to Shor's algorithm (and by extension Quantum Computation), being lattice-based.

[tor-talk] Fw: About 3.0-alpha-2 and default search

2013-07-02 Thread P J P
- Forwarded Message -   Hi, I just installed the 3.0alpha2 release. It's working great! Thanks so much for this update! 1. Could we make - duckduckgo.com - default search engine? Especially in the address/location bar. It requires keyword.URL to be set as   

[tor-talk] Tor for upcoming FirefoxOS?

2013-07-02 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
Hi all, does anyone made a technical analysis to understand whenever would be possible to have Tor running on upcoming FirefoxOS ? https://people.mozilla.com/~myk/r2d2b2g/ -naif ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org

Re: [tor-talk] Tor for upcoming FirefoxOS?

2013-07-02 Thread Nathan Freitas
On 07/02/2013 09:26 AM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: does anyone made a technical analysis to understand whenever would be possible to have Tor running on upcoming FirefoxOS ? https://people.mozilla.com/~myk/r2d2b2g/ We've talked to Mozilla multiple times about this possibility. They even

[tor-talk] German News magazine DER SPIEGEL reports how to set up Tor

2013-07-02 Thread tor-admin
DER SPIEGEL has an article (german) about how to setup a Tor router using Rasperry Pie: http://is.gd/FhUEQ4 It is interesting to see how this kind of news reaches mainstream media after the PRISM disclosure. Regards, Torland ___ tor-talk mailing

Re: [tor-talk] Tor for upcoming FirefoxOS?

2013-07-02 Thread Nicolas Vigier
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013, Nathan Freitas wrote: They said we must cross-compile any native code into Javascript. I am not sure if that was meant to be a joke or not. They are probably talking about using emscripten : https://github.com/kripken/emscripten/wiki

Re: [tor-talk] safety of exit nodes

2013-07-02 Thread tor-admin
Hi Hans Rüdiger, I am concerned too, that there are malicious exit servers out there. That is one of the reasons why I operate Exits. To make it less probable that the malicious ones get the traffic. Best regards, Torland On Tuesday 02 July 2013 01:39:22 anonymous.cow...@posteo.de wrote: Hi

Re: [tor-talk] German News magazine DER SPIEGEL reports how to set up Tor

2013-07-02 Thread Ed Fletcher
On 02/07/2013 11:20 AM, tor-admin wrote: DER SPIEGEL has an article (german) about how to setup a Tor router using Rasperry Pie: http://is.gd/FhUEQ4 It is interesting to see how this kind of news reaches mainstream media after the PRISM disclosure. Regards, Torland This one is a wireless

Re: [tor-talk] Secure email with limited usable metadata

2013-07-02 Thread coderman
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Andreas Krey a.k...@gmx.de wrote: ... Put new clients into the next instance of this service, formally operated by someone else? you say this like there's an inexhaustible supply of dedicated individuals / volunteers able to administer a business entity /

Re: [tor-talk] Secure email with limited usable metadata

2013-07-02 Thread Praedor Tempus
Would there be a way to Freenet the service?  Distribute it over many servers...no one actually knowing what clients they have, perhaps not even how many but operated over the tor network? From: coderman coder...@gmail.com To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org

Re: [tor-talk] German News magazine DER SPIEGEL reports how to set up Tor

2013-07-02 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
Il 7/2/13 4:36 PM, Ed Fletcher ha scritto: http://learn.adafruit.com/onion-pi/overview I'd like to see the reverse setup; connect to the RPi with the cable and then to a wifi network using Tor. Most hotels only have wifi these days, not a wired connection. I would like to see major nerd

Re: [tor-talk] Tor for upcoming FirefoxOS?

2013-07-02 Thread Griffin Boyce
Nicolas Vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org wrote: On Tue, 02 Jul 2013, Nathan Freitas wrote: They said we must cross-compile any native code into Javascript. I am not sure if that was meant to be a joke or not. They are probably talking about using emscripten :

[tor-talk] Silly question regarding private keys

2013-07-02 Thread thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de
Hello all, please help me understanding this: supposed, the NSA were able to break into a large scale of tor nodes, stealing the tor private server key. At the same time they were able to gather all traffic they can get. Wouldnt this increase the likelihood that data from complete circuits can

Re: [tor-talk] Tor for upcoming FirefoxOS?

2013-07-02 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
Il 7/2/13 3:48 PM, Nathan Freitas ha scritto: They said we must cross-compile any native code into Javascript. I am not sure if that was meant to be a joke or not. I am wondering if a Client-Only, lightweight Tor Library in Javascript would be feasible, maybe considering SilverTunnel porting

Re: [tor-talk] Theft of Tor relay private keys?

2013-07-02 Thread Mike Perry
thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de: Hello all, please help me understanding this: supposed, the NSA were able to break into a large scale of tor nodes, stealing the tor private server key. At the same time they were able to gather all traffic they can get. Wouldnt this increase the likelihood

Re: [tor-talk] safety of exit nodes

2013-07-02 Thread anonymous coward
I am concerned too, that there are malicious exit servers out there. That is one of the reasons why I operate Exits. To make it less probable that the malicious ones get the traffic. How can I see what route my data use? Vidalia shows a map, but it is not that precise to my eyes. I read you

[tor-talk] Tor email services

2013-07-02 Thread anonymous coward
I see there are email services within the Tor network that are only available with an *.onion URL. Can these services be used with a standard email client like Thunderbird (and IMAP or POP3)? Do these email services interact with the outside email world? Thanks R signature.asc Description:

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia error message with TorBirdy

2013-07-02 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 09:27:23PM +, anonymous coward wrote: Hello, I start Tor with Vidalia. And I use TorBirdy with Thunderbird. Sometimes I see a message from Vidalia: This is from the Vidalia log: Jul 02 22:34:44.907 Application request to port 143: this port is commonly used

[tor-talk] Vidalia error message with TorBirdy

2013-07-02 Thread anonymous coward
Hello, I start Tor with Vidalia. And I use TorBirdy with Thunderbird. Sometimes I see a message from Vidalia: This is from the Vidalia log: Jul 02 22:34:44.907 Application request to port 143: this port is commonly used for unencrypted protocols. Please make sure you don't send anything you

Re: [tor-talk] German News magazine DER SPIEGEL reports how to set up Tor

2013-07-02 Thread anonymous coward
tor-admin: DER SPIEGEL has an article (german) about how to setup a Tor router using Rasperry Pie: http://is.gd/FhUEQ4 If they had the balls, they would operate a Tor exit relay! Maybe I write this as a comment there. Gruß Rüdi signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [tor-talk] Tor for upcoming FirefoxOS?

2013-07-02 Thread Nathan Freitas
On 07/02/2013 02:02 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: I am wondering if a Client-Only, lightweight Tor Library in Javascript would be feasible, maybe considering SilverTunnel porting https://silvertunnel.org ? The problem in the past with silvertunnel, coffee onion, java-tor, etc, has been

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia error message with TorBirdy

2013-07-02 Thread anonymous coward
Roger Dingledine: On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 09:27:23PM +, anonymous coward wrote: Hello, I start Tor with Vidalia. And I use TorBirdy with Thunderbird. Sometimes I see a message from Vidalia: This is from the Vidalia log: Jul 02 22:34:44.907 Application request to port 143: this port

Re: [tor-talk] Tor for upcoming FirefoxOS?

2013-07-02 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Nathan Freitas nat...@freitas.net wrote: On 07/02/2013 02:02 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: I am wondering if a Client-Only, lightweight Tor Library in Javascript would be feasible, maybe considering SilverTunnel porting https://silvertunnel.org ? The

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia error message with TorBirdy

2013-07-02 Thread Sukhbir Singh
anonymous coward: I start Tor with Vidalia. And I use TorBirdy with Thunderbird. Sometimes I see a message from Vidalia: This is from the Vidalia log: Jul 02 22:34:44.907 Application request to port 143: this port is commonly used for unencrypted protocols. Please make sure you don't

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia error message with TorBirdy

2013-07-02 Thread Sukhbir Singh
anonymous coward: You should use port 993 (SSL/TLS) for all IMAP accounts if you want to connect to your mail server over Tor. That is why it is the default setting :) Thunderbird try to circumvent Tor? Isn´t it just normal, TB tries to connect to the imap server on its port? No, it's not

Re: [tor-talk] Tor email services

2013-07-02 Thread scrubbed
Yes, they can. I see there are email services within the Tor network that are only available with an *.onion URL. Can these services be used with a standard email client like Thunderbird (and IMAP or POP3)? Do these email services interact with the outside email world? Thanks R

[tor-talk] Webpage autorefresh weakens onion routing

2013-07-02 Thread Mark Yaler
Hi, This seems like the most appropriate Tor list for this issue, but move the discussion if not... This isn't a Tor bug, but rather a security problem that occurs to Tor users due to an inadvertent anti-anonymity property of popular webpages. Let's say you open webpage X, which automatically

Re: [tor-talk] Webpage autorefresh weakens onion routing

2013-07-02 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 06:45:24PM -0700, Mark Yaler wrote: Let's say you open webpage X, which automatically refreshes every minute. But the user doesn't immediately realize this problem. Variations of this attack are in various research papers, e.g.

Re: [tor-talk] Theft of Tor relay private keys?

2013-07-02 Thread Andreas Krey
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:33:10 +, Mike Perry wrote: ... But I got distracted by more pressing issues before I could finish the scripts.. Also, many of those encrypted+authenticated Tor container things probably don't make much sense without Secure Boot to authenticate the boot process up

Re: [tor-talk] Tor for upcoming FirefoxOS?

2013-07-02 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Nathan Freitas: On 07/02/2013 09:26 AM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: does anyone made a technical analysis to understand whenever would be possible to have Tor running on upcoming FirefoxOS ? https://people.mozilla.com/~myk/r2d2b2g/ We've talked to Mozilla multiple times about this