Re: [tor-talk] Request for Tor, king of anonymity graphic

2013-11-10 Thread Griffin Boyce
On 11/10/2013 12:29 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: This clearly calls for a goofy mashup of a crown and the Tor onion, so I can drive the point home in a memorable way. Here's Tor, Queen of Anonymity Systems: http://i.imgur.com/PmuFz4n.jpg but more importantly, here's a deal with it gif:

Re: [tor-talk] Request for Tor, king of anonymity graphic

2013-11-10 Thread Lazlo Westerhof
https://imgur.com/vYZSu6Q The used clipart crown is public domain. SVG version also exists. -- Lazlo he...@lazlo.me GPG: 0x6e82534e -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to

Re: [tor-talk] Request for Tor, king of anonymity graphic

2013-11-10 Thread Lazlo Westerhof
https://imgur.com/vYZSu6Q The used clipart crown is public domain. SVG version also exists. -- Lazlo he...@lazlo.me GPG: 0x6e82534e -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to

Re: [tor-talk] Request for Tor, king of anonymity graphic

2013-11-10 Thread Matt
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 06:33:35 + Matt m...@pagan.io wrote: I have created such an image. The crown is from Clkr.com: The online royalty free public domain clip art. I placed the image I made on tinypic. I'm sure someone will put it in a better place if it is useful. Feel free to use

Re: [tor-talk] Request for Tor, king of anonymity graphic

2013-11-10 Thread mick
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:03:00 + Matt m...@pagan.io allegedly wrote: Feel free to use this image, share it, modify it, and/or share your modifications. http://oi42.tinypic.com/2h87eb8.jpg Oh, man. The correct URL is http://oi42.tinypic.com/2h87eb9.jpg I did wonder Mind

[tor-talk] Fwd: [rt.torproject.org #15873] Re: Another way that people can be watched

2013-11-10 Thread Chuck
- Forwarded message from Sherief Alaa via RT - Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 18:09:46 + Subject: [rt.torproject.org #15873] Re: Another way that people can be watched To: zol...@hush.com On Sun Nov 10 15:54:33 2013, zol...@hush.com wrote: When checking browser security, I was thinking.

[tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread hikki
Today I discovered that wiki.debian.org blocks Tor exit nodes. There are many other sites doing the same thing, and this is an increasing trend among website admins. If this trend continues, Tor will sooner or later become close to useless for regular clearnet surfing. And we'll be left with

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: [rt.torproject.org #15873] Re: Another way that people can be watched

2013-11-10 Thread intrigeri
Chuck wrote (10 Nov 2013 19:18:31 GMT) : I recommend sending this email to the tor-talk mailing list, you will get a lot more useful answers than here. https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/ Sorry to redirect you once again, but tails-support is probably more appropriate given the

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread intrigeri
hi...@safe-mail.net wrote (10 Nov 2013 18:37:10 GMT) : Today I discovered that wiki.debian.org blocks Tor exit nodes. It blocks *some* exit nodes, not all. E.g. it works for me right now. Data point: I had the exit nodes removed from the blacklist (via private follow-ups to

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Akater
The only solution would be recommending people to run exit nodes from home. Actually I wonder why tor users seem to be convinced it's a bad idea. I used to think this IS the point of Tor. If you run exit node from home then nobody can prove that any particular activity was from you and not some

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Michael Wolf
On 11/10/2013 3:12 PM, Akater wrote: The only solution would be recommending people to run exit nodes from home. Actually I wonder why tor users seem to be convinced it's a bad idea. I used to think this IS the point of Tor. If you run exit node from home then nobody can prove that any

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Sherief Alaa
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 8:37 PM, hi...@safe-mail.net wrote: Today I discovered that wiki.debian.org blocks Tor exit nodes. There are many other sites doing the same thing, and this is an increasing trend among website admins. Not sure if they block all exit nodes (if any). I just

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/10/2013 2:12 PM, Akater wrote: Actually I wonder why tor users seem to be convinced it's a bad idea Am I missing something? Yes, from what I've seen reported several times on this list, you're missing that even being approached or brought in for questioning by LEAs, threatened by

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Akater
The German guy was released, right? A couple more precendents, and police will stop raids like this one due to inefficiency. Because, ultimately, they /are/ inefficient, and all Tor community needs to do is to make it as clear to general public as possible. It's difficult to predict how such a

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Praedor
I have, now and then, run exits from home. In each case, a week or so after, I'd get a letter from my ISP about a copyright violation (someone downloaded a pirated movie or music). I'm glad it was just that and not cops blowing in on a pedophile investigation for downloads of child porn. That

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Akater
…what I'm saying is: Tor could be much more than just a proxy tool, it could be a public campaign—with all the “dirty work” your generic public campaign has. (Well, it's not /that/ dirty, actually; it's funny once you get involved.) Activism, PR, fundraising, education, etc. The only reason

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Mirimir
On 11/10/2013 02:14 PM, Akater wrote: SNIP Again, I don't understand what's the purpose of Tor if you pretend you don't use it. ... SNIP Seriously? The point is being more anonymous! If there's a site that you need to access, and that site blocks enough Tor exit nodes to make access

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/10/2013 3:14 PM, Akater wrote: The German guy was released, right? A couple more precendents, and police will stop raids like this one due to inefficiency. Because, ultimately, they /are/ inefficient, and all Tor community needs to do is to make it as clear to general public as possible.

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Akater
Any VPN provider will sell you out if big brother tells it to. The structure of Tor perfectly reflects the ultimate inherent freedom of Internet: if users act properly, one can't control Internet without turning himself into an omniscient dictator. Hence, using Tor as a mere proxy tool is

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread adrelanos
Akater: I don't even understand who will see this message Everyone signed up on this mailing list, everyone reading the archive over web and those who find results from this mailing list on search engines. and how to provide a discussion link for outsider. Go to the mailing list archive and

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Akater
And, criminals do use Tor, at times. Criminals do use guns at times. Does it mean gov't can harrass you if you own one, too? What about cash? Criminals like cash because it's anonymous. Should we ban cash transactions that exceed certain limit? Who will set the limit? The same guys who can print

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Matt
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:37:10 -0500 hi...@safe-mail.net wrote: Today I discovered that wiki.debian.org blocks Tor exit nodes. There are many other sites doing the same thing, and this is an increasing trend among website admins. If this trend continues, Tor will sooner or later become close

[tor-talk] Am I running an exit node?

2013-11-10 Thread Anthony Papillion
I read when I set up Tor that the default config will run an exit node. I think I made the changes necessary to make sure I'm only runny a relay but I'm not sure. Would someone be so kind as to look at my attached config and confirm that I am indeed not running exit node? Thanks! Anthony ##

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Juan Garofalo
--On Monday, November 11, 2013 2:44 AM +0400 Akater nuclearsp...@gmail.com wrote: Any VPN provider will sell you out if big brother tells it to. The structure of Tor perfectly reflects the ultimate inherent freedom of Internet: if users act properly, one can't control Internet without

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 11/10/2013 4:53 PM, Akater wrote: And, criminals do use Tor, at times. Criminals do use guns at times. Does it mean gov't can harrass you if you own one, too? They can do harass anyone, for anything, that they want to. They know how far they can take it (sometimes, that's PRETTY far).

Re: [tor-talk] Am I running an exit node?

2013-11-10 Thread Leon Johnson
If you don't want to run as an exit node, your torrc file is correctly configured. You can always check one of the TorStatus websites: http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ (usually updated after an hour or so). Do a search for your IP or Nickname. In your case, you should *not* see an image of a small

[tor-talk] Are project change logs online?

2013-11-10 Thread gq
I know change logs are included in packages but are they viewable online anywhere? Or do you have to download and extract/install the full package to see them? -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to

Re: [tor-talk] Are project change logs online?

2013-11-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 07:58:09PM -0500, gq wrote: I know change logs are included in packages but are they viewable online anywhere? Or do you have to download and extract/install the full package to see them? Go to https://www.torproject.org/download/download and click Source code

Re: [tor-talk] Are project change logs online?

2013-11-10 Thread Damian Johnson
I know change logs are included in packages but are they viewable online anywhere? Or do you have to download and extract/install the full package to see them? If you mean tor's ChangeLog then it's available at... https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/blob/HEAD:/ChangeLog -- tor-talk mailing

Re: [tor-talk] More and more websites block Tor, which will eventually become useless!

2013-11-10 Thread Juha Nurmi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 11.11.2013 06:48, krishna e Bera wrote: As someone else pointed out, the most likely consequence of home exit nodes is DMCA complaints leading to cutoff of your home internet connection. Many (most?) ISPs don't even allow running servers.