Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Sean Alexandre
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 04:50:44PM +0600, Roman Mamedov wrote: https://pogoplug.com/safeplug Someone should buy this and post a teardown. :) (via http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/11/22/49-safeplug-tor-router-let-you-browse-the-net-anonymously/ ) I think these kind of devices configured

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Chris Burge
I very rarely (if ever) comment on this list (I like to read and learn). That said, I've been looking into building a TOR router using Pi. This is because I have elements within my home that are technically inept and thus are a danger to themselves and everyone else (ageing parents...what can

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 06:25:33 -0500 Sean Alexandre s...@alexan.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 04:50:44PM +0600, Roman Mamedov wrote: https://pogoplug.com/safeplug Someone should buy this and post a teardown. :) (via

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread andrew
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 07:04:00PM +0600, r...@romanrm.net wrote 2.5K bytes in 0 lines about: : On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 04:50:44PM +0600, Roman Mamedov wrote: : https://pogoplug.com/safeplug Out of all the concerns about how they implemented it and such, my main concern is that it just adds

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:56:55 -0500 and...@torproject.is wrote: Out of all the concerns about how they implemented it and such, my main concern is that it just adds more clients to the network without giving back in the form of relays or bridges. If these are all real people using and getting

Re: [tor-talk] How secure is check.torproject.org?

2013-11-22 Thread Ed Fletcher
On 21/11/2013 5:08 AM, Katya Titov wrote: Roger Dingledine: But TBB in the background will still fetch https://check.torproject.org/RecommendedTBBVersions to decide if you need to upgrade without telling anybody your version. So yes, the answer is that pretty soon the check website won't be

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Ed Fletcher
On 22/11/2013 4:50 AM, Roman Mamedov wrote: https://pogoplug.com/safeplug Someone should buy this and post a teardown. :) (via http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/11/22/49-safeplug-tor-router-let-you-browse-the-net-anonymously/ ) I too would be interested in seeing how this actually works.

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Mike Cardwell
* on the Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 08:38:40AM -0500, krishna e bera wrote: When people are switched over to Tor without their informed enthusiastic consent, they are likely in for disappointment and you are in for a lot of tech support calls. Some websites will be blocked and most of their

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Mike Cardwell: * on the Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 08:38:40AM -0500, krishna e bera wrote: When people are switched over to Tor without their informed enthusiastic consent, they are likely in for disappointment and you are in for a lot of tech support calls. Some websites will be blocked and most

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Yuri
On 11/22/2013 05:38, krishna e bera wrote: When people are switched over to Tor without their informed enthusiastic consent, they are likely in for disappointment and you are in for a lot of tech support calls. Some websites will be blocked and most of their internet use will be much slower

Re: [tor-talk] How secure is check.torproject.org?

2013-11-22 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 11/22/2013 05:49 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote: On 21/11/2013 5:08 AM, Katya Titov wrote: This is something that I have also wondered about. Why go outside of the Tor network to check that you're using Tor? A hidden service adds extra hops to hide the (location of the) service. There's some

Re: [tor-talk] tor-talk Digest, Vol 34, Issue 45

2013-11-22 Thread Jonas Bruun
Thanks Mick, I'll look into it 2013/11/20 tor-talk-requ...@lists.torproject.org Send tor-talk mailing list submissions to tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] New TOR Service Suggestions and Enhancements

2013-11-22 Thread Red Sonja
Mark McCarron: It will not be a fork. Anything I do will be submitted for inclusion in the main branch when ready. Quite a number of the changes I mentioned are in the pipeline anyway. In this case, thank you for helping make tor better. -- tor-talk mailing list -

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:45:35 -0800 Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: Also, without the device being open source (and how can it really be?) Why can't it be? Well, maybe not the whole device down to the CPU Verilog design level, but they could post source-code for the firmware with the instructions

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread aagbsn
On 2013-11-22 15:56, and...@torproject.is wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 07:04:00PM +0600, r...@romanrm.net wrote 2.5K bytes in 0 lines about: : On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 04:50:44PM +0600, Roman Mamedov wrote: : https://pogoplug.com/safeplug Out of all the concerns about how they implemented

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Yuri
On 11/22/2013 11:35, Roman Mamedov wrote: Why can't it be? Well, maybe not the whole device down to the CPU Verilog design level, but they could post source-code for the firmware with the instructions to build and flash it, and since most likely this contains at least the Linux kernel and some

Re: [tor-talk] How secure is check.torproject.org?

2013-11-22 Thread Katya Titov
Moritz Bartl: On 11/22/2013 05:49 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote: This is something that I have also wondered about. Why go outside of the Tor network to check that you're using Tor? A hidden service adds extra hops to hide the (location of the) service. There's some movement towards allowing

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread gq
I bought an early pogoplug device. It was advertised as a means to provide safe and secure file access. This model allowed connecting one's external hard drive via a USB port and connecting via ethernet to WAN thru their infrastructure which ostensibly provided authentication and access

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Red Sonja
Yuri: How can one be sure that firmware that is running on the router is built from this particular source code and not from some modified version or different revision? Hashes? The ability to build it from sources? If you search you can find a few other solutions. Also how can one be

Re: [tor-talk] How secure is check.torproject.org?

2013-11-22 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 11/22/2013 10:35 PM, Katya Titov wrote: The advantage that I see is that is there is no way to directly access a .onion site without using Tor, so it is a clear indicator that Tor is in use, visible to the user. TBB 3.0 works under the assumption that it can either access websites and is

Re: [tor-talk] Social scientific research on Tor and similar technologies

2013-11-22 Thread andrew
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 09:41:40PM -0600, jonasbru...@gmail.com wrote 1.2K bytes in 0 lines about: : with me and fill it out. It would mean a lot to me, my research - and : eventually to people using Tor and similar services. : : This is the link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DBYBDZL I

Re: [tor-talk] Safeplug

2013-11-22 Thread Griffin Boyce
and...@torproject.is wrote: Out of all the concerns about how they implemented it and such, my main concern is that it just adds more clients to the network without giving back in the form of relays or bridges. Or at least, none of their documentation mentions the ability to share freedom and

[tor-talk] StrictExitNodes deprecated?

2013-11-22 Thread anonymous coward
Hello, I just see the options StrictExitNodes and StrictEntryNodes is deprecated? What is the correct syntax now to use fixed entry nodes and fixed exit nodes? Thank you signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To

Re: [tor-talk] How secure is check.torproject.org?

2013-11-22 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 07:35:54AM +1000, Katya Titov wrote: The advantage that I see is that is there is no way to directly access a .onion site without using Tor, so it is a clear indicator that Tor is in use, visible to the user. Not necessarily. Imagine a local network attacker who sees

Re: [tor-talk] StrictExitNodes deprecated?

2013-11-22 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 04:19:20AM +, anonymous coward wrote: Hello, I just see the options StrictExitNodes and StrictEntryNodes is deprecated? What is the correct syntax now to use fixed entry nodes and fixed exit nodes? EntryNode $9695DFC35FFEB861329B9F1AB04C46397020CE31 ExitNode

Re: [tor-talk] StrictExitNodes deprecated?

2013-11-22 Thread Sherief Alaa
On Nov 23, 2013, at 6:19 AM, anonymous coward anonymous.cow...@posteo.de wrote: Hello, Hi, I just see the options StrictExitNodes and StrictEntryNodes is deprecated? The correct syntax is: EntryNodes {node, node, ...} StrictNodes 0 or 1 #0 for disabled For more information about how