Re: [tor-talk] Pissed off about Blacklists, and what to do?

2014-02-07 Thread Andrea Shepard
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:46:32PM -0500, grarpamp wrote: So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists, or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far as I'm concerned, we are all

[tor-talk] The following directory authorities recommend other client versions than the consensus: gabelmoo

2014-02-07 Thread tor-admin
This message was reported by the Doctor: NOTICE: The following directory authorities recommend other client versions than the consensus: gabelmoo +0.2.2.39 +0.2.4.15-rc +0.2.4.5-alpha +0.2.4.6- alpha +0.2.4.7-alpha +0.2.4.10-alpha +0.2.4.12-alpha +0.2.4.13-alpha +0.2.4.14-alpha +0.2.4.9-alpha

Re: [tor-talk] Pissed off about Blacklists, and what to do?

2014-02-07 Thread Lunar
grarpamp: So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists, or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far as I'm concerned, we are all legitimate users of their services and quite

Re: [tor-talk] The following directory authorities recommend other client versions than the consensus: gabelmoo

2014-02-07 Thread Sebastian Hahn
Hi, On 07 Feb 2014, at 08:05, tor-admin tor-ad...@torland.me wrote: This message was reported by the Doctor: NOTICE: The following directory authorities recommend other client versions than the consensus: gabelmoo +0.2.2.39 +0.2.4.15-rc +0.2.4.5-alpha +0.2.4.6- alpha +0.2.4.7-alpha

Re: [tor-talk] TBB: Can not set back to Never remember history

2014-02-07 Thread Georg Koppen
Hi, On 06.02.2014 21:20, David Balažic wrote: I now tried a clean installation of TBB 3.5.1 win32 I change the option from Never remember history to Remember History. It requested a restart. Then I checked and it was Use custom settings for history. I looked at the TorButton extension

Re: [tor-talk] Pissed off about Blacklists, and what to do?

2014-02-07 Thread Paul Syverson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 12:33:08AM -0800, Al Jigong Billings wrote: Or maybe people got tired of the minority of trolls and nazis that seem to come through Tor to infest some sites. I know people who block Tor. It is usually because a disproportionate amount of the abuse on their site comes

Re: [tor-talk] Pissed off about Blacklists, and what to do?

2014-02-07 Thread Öyvind Saether
What can we do, as a collective social entity, to put an end to this madness? It is not as if we, as Tor users, present any more of a load upon their help/fraud/abuse desks than the wider open internet as a whole, even when if perhaps adjusted for market share of source IP's. So what can we

Re: [tor-talk] The following directory authorities recommend other client versions than the consensus: gabelmoo

2014-02-07 Thread tor-admin
On Friday 07 February 2014 09:50:52 Sebastian Hahn wrote: The idea is to recommend all versions which aren't known to be bad, so that an operator who reads their Tor logs will realize their Tor really needs to be upgraded in order to remain secure/operational when theysee it. So, if an -rc

Re: [tor-talk] The following directory authorities recommend other client versions than the consensus: gabelmoo

2014-02-07 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 02:14:28PM +0100, tor-admin wrote: Sebastian, thanks for clarification. I remember there were some late changes #9063, #9072, #9093, and #10169 which made it into 2.4.X because of the DOS issues Rob Jansen described in https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-

Re: [tor-talk] Pluggable transports

2014-02-07 Thread TheMindwareGroup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hmmm... I've been thinking about all this stuff, and reading up on the PDFs. I think the parrot is dead is a little over strict in his analysis, I highly doubt they have technology as good as this yet and probably wont have any time soon, so yes in

Re: [tor-talk] Pissed off about Blacklists, and what to do?

2014-02-07 Thread shm...@riseup.net
grarpamp: So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists, or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far as I'm concerned, we are all legitimate users of their services and quite

Re: [tor-talk] Using Tor Browser without Tor?

2014-02-07 Thread unknown
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 02:00:02 -0500 Soul Plane soulplan...@gmail.com wrote: Is it ok to use the Tor Browser without Tor? I don't need Tor but I like the privacy features that the browser offers. Yes you can. I use that way for transparent torifycation in Linux, manually restarting Browser and

Re: [tor-talk] Hulu now blocks Tor

2014-02-07 Thread Missouri Anglers
Hulu requires JavaScript to work properly. If you enable JavaScript when visiting the site does that not defeat the purpose of using TOR? On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:54:41 -0700 Joshua Datko jbda...@gmail.com wrote: As I tried to watch Family Guy, I received this message from Hulu: Based

Re: [tor-talk] Pissed off about Blacklists, and what to do?

2014-02-07 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:46:32PM -0500, grarpamp wrote: So many sites that we all use are now blacklisting Tor. It's unclear whether it is via their use of tools that blindly utilize blacklists, or if they are making a conscious choice to deny Tor users. As far as I'm concerned, we are all

Re: [tor-talk] Pissed off about Blacklists, and what to do?

2014-02-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/7/2014 12:42 PM, Matthew Finkel wrote: This is in re: Hulu (whis is presumably authenticated)... but really, it applies to any service which we, the legitimate users of Tor, are denied access to. It has simply gone too far and we should be putting effort into reversing this trend by

Re: [tor-talk] Hulu now blocks Tor

2014-02-07 Thread Al Billings
Doesn’t streaming HD video through Tor degrade the entire network? From: Missouri Anglers Missouri Anglers Reply: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Date: February 7, 2014 at 12:11:23 PM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject:  Re:

Re: [tor-talk] The following directory authorities recommend other client versions than the consensus: gabelmoo

2014-02-07 Thread Griffin Boyce
The Doctor wrote: tor-admin wrote: This message was reported by the Doctor: ...I said what? Nymspace collision is a real problem, folks! ~Saint ^H^H^H Griffin -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to

Re: [tor-talk] The following directory authorities recommend other client versions than the consensus: gabelmoo

2014-02-07 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/07/2014 12:50 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote: Nymspace collision is a real problem, folks! Another agument for PGP signing everything... And now, back on topic for this mailing list. - -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703] [ZS] Developer, Project

Re: [tor-talk] Pissed off about Blacklists, and what to do?

2014-02-07 Thread Mirimir
On 02/07/2014 01:55 PM, James Marshall wrote: As others have pointed out, the fact (?) that Tor users are no more likely to abuse may not matter as much as the *perception* that they are. However unfairly, the perception of something often carries the day more than the facts, and should be

Re: [tor-talk] Pissed off about Blacklists, and what to do?

2014-02-07 Thread Mirimir
Make that why blocking Tor exits is largely pointless. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk