Re: [tor-talk] Hidden Services - how to implement something like Round Robin DNS?

2014-10-01 Thread grarpamp
If all you want to do is load share right now today, you can set the main onion to 302 all traffic amongst an onion farm. It's only for http and isn't perfect but it does spread the traffic around. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: IP Banned for running a non-exit relay from home?

2014-10-01 Thread Virgil Griffith
Well now that it's been mentioned in tor-talk maybe it'll appear next time Mr. DANIEL AUSTIN MBCS Googles himself. -V -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: IP Banned for running a non-exit relay from home?

2014-10-01 Thread Virgil Griffith
I actually always figured the opposite---that knowing someone was Tor user was surprisingly quite valuable for advertisers. You know the viewer is technically literate and interested in security and privacy. I don't study ads or anything, but this sounds like a target demographic to me. If nothin

[tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 1st, 2014

2014-10-01 Thread harmony
Tor Weekly NewsOctober 1st, 2014 Welcome to the thirty-ninth issue in 2014 of Tor Weekly News, the weekly newsle

Re: [tor-talk] Hidden Services - Access control.

2014-10-01 Thread Lunar
coderman: > On 9/30/14, Lluís wrote: > > ... > > I didn't find anything about access control, > > is there anyway of doing this ? > > Can I hide the *.onion address to anyone, but me ? > > you cannot hide the existence of the *.onion, as these are "location > hidden" not "existence hidden". I be

[tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good day all, About once a year the topic of Tor comes up on Wikimedia's technical mailing list. I recently raised the topic again. For those who aren't aware of the situation, currently Wikimedia blocks all edits from Tor users. We are trying to f

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Mirimir
On 10/01/2014 07:57 AM, Derric Atzrott wrote: > Good day all, > > About once a year the topic of Tor comes up on Wikimedia's technical mailing > list. I recently raised the topic again. For those who aren't aware of the > situation, currently Wikimedia blocks all edits from Tor users. We are tr

Re: [tor-talk] Hidden Services - Access control.

2014-10-01 Thread L. Blissett
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 06:59:20PM +0200, Lluís wrote: > I am trying to setup a hidden webserver, only for > testing at the moment. > > After reading the hidden services howto here: > > https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en > > I didn't find anything about access control, >

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread z9wahqvh
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Derric Atzrott wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I was curious if any of you here might have any ideas? How can we verify > that > a person is who they say they are, and block them if they are abusive in > such > a way that it is at leas

Re: [tor-talk] Hidden Services - Access control.

2014-10-01 Thread Sebastian G.
01.10.2014, 15:41 Lunar: > coderman: >> On 9/30/14, Lluís wrote: >>> ... >>> I didn't find anything about access control, >>> is there anyway of doing this ? >>> Can I hide the *.onion address to anyone, but me ? >> >> you cannot hide the existence of the *.onion, as these are "location >> hidden"

Re: [tor-talk] Hidden Services - Access control.

2014-10-01 Thread Griffin Boyce
Sebastian G. wrote: How does that hide the existence of the hidden-service? It shouldn't actually resolve if you don't have the authorization details in your torrc file. ~Griffin -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https:

[tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-01 Thread Sebastian G.
I appear to lack imagination on how Tor helps abuse victims. Since some of you are involved with some organizations working in that field, I hope you give some insight. Personally I see no benefit in using Tor from the point of view of an abuse victim. Beside the properties why anyone could use To

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-01 Thread Mirimir
On 10/01/2014 11:20 AM, Sebastian G. wrote: > I appear to lack imagination on how Tor helps abuse victims. Since some > of you are involved with some organizations working in that field, I > hope you give some insight. > > Personally I see no benefit in using Tor from the point of view of an > ab

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
> I appear to lack imagination on how Tor helps abuse victims. Since some > of you are involved with some organizations working in that field, I > hope you give some insight. > > Personally I see no benefit in using Tor from the point of view of an > abuse victim. Beside the properties why anyone c

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > You can't reliably block by IP address. It's unfair, because numerous > users behind a NAT router will have the same public IP address. And it's > also trivial to evade using proxies, with or without Tor. Blocking Tor > (or even all known proxies) on

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-01 Thread Lluís
I have been a victim of discrimination, for political issues, for some time. The anonymity Tor offers may improve the victim's life in many things, from finding a job to communicate to others, completely free from their abusers. They may even set up blogs or web pages to expose the ones who harass

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-01 Thread Sebastian G.
Mimir: > Tor can provide anonymity, including location anonymity, for victims of > offline abuse, who have perhaps relocated for protection. Even for > victims of online abuse, Tor can help protect against doxing. I hadn't imagined that victims keep in contact with their abusers or have their comm

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Mirimir
On 10/01/2014 12:10 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote: >> Even imposing a nontrivial cost for creating accounts (say 10 BTC) would >> not help. Determined adversaries would pay it. And of course, that would >> exclude numerous innocents who wouldn't or couldn't pay. > > Yeah, I was just listing off some

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Is there any mechanism available by which, e.g., known & trusted editors > could request Tor access for specific login credentials/accounts, and Tor > only allowed for those accounts? This would also help to address Derric's > interest in allowing us

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-01 Thread Mirimir
On 10/01/2014 12:21 PM, Sebastian G. wrote: > Mimir: >> Tor can provide anonymity, including location anonymity, for victims of >> offline abuse, who have perhaps relocated for protection. Even for >> victims of online abuse, Tor can help protect against doxing. > > I hadn't imagined that victims

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Greg Curcio
hi people i am unfamiliar with this stuff. how many people can see/ read this here? Greg Curcio On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Mirimir wrote: > On 10/01/2014 12:10 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote: > > > > >> Even imposing a nontrivial cost for creating accounts (say 10 BTC) would > >> not help. Det

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread z9wahqvh
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote: > > There is a mechanism for this. It is called an IP Block Exemption (IPBE), > sadly it is very hard to get because people fear its abuse so much. I have > actually only just got it after I brought up the topic of Tor and talked > to some f

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
> hi people > i am unfamiliar with this stuff. how many people can see/ read this here? The logs for this mailing list are publicly available. Don't say anything you don't want the world to know. Thank you, Derric Atzrott -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > this is extremely interesting--thank you! but would this work for Tor, > since presumably the IPs that are blocked are those of the exit relays? > > I am proposing keeping the IPs blocked but opening them up for certain > logged-in accounts--I don't

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread harmony
On 2014-10-01 13:57, Derric Atzrott wrote: Good day all, Hi, Thanks for bringing this up once more! The topic seems to recur even more frequently than once a year around here. Two recent and relevant discussions: Your colleague Lane Rasberry started a similar thread earlier this year and

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread z9wahqvh
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote: > > Did that explain it any better? > it did. very clear now. sorry for not grokking it better first time around. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Ted Smith
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 15:50 -0400, Derric Atzrott wrote: > > this is extremely interesting--thank you! but would this work for Tor, > > since presumably the IPs that are blocked are those of the exit relays? > > > > I am proposing keeping the IPs blocked but opening them up for certain > > logged-

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > it did. very clear now. sorry for not grokking it better first time > around. No worries. Such things happen; I could have been more clear. > Thanks for bringing this up once more! The topic seems to recur even > more frequently than once a year

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Derric Atzrott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > So then blocking Tor is intended to block people that temporarily have > access to large amounts of unblocked IP addresses, but usually are IP > blocked? > > Who does this apply to? If a vandal has access to unblocked IP addresses > to make accounts

Re: [tor-talk] Wikimedia and Tor

2014-10-01 Thread Ted Smith
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 16:33 -0400, Derric Atzrott wrote: > > So then blocking Tor is intended to block people that temporarily have > > access to large amounts of unblocked IP addresses, but usually are IP > > blocked? > > > > Who does this apply to? If a vandal has access to unblocked IP addresse

[tor-talk] Tor in the media

2014-10-01 Thread Patrick
Hi everyone, Over the past few weeks, I've talked with a number of Tor people about how the project is portrayed in the media. As a reporter on this beat, the many legitimate criticisms the community have had strike pretty close to home for me. I don't think I need to tell this list why Tor's port

[tor-talk] (no subject)

2014-10-01 Thread peterholy SARRIS
SARRIS good day I need help . running tor onion browser bundle on a Panasonic Toughbook cf-29 running on 32bit 14.04 Ubuntu oS only . Microsoft windows has been removed out of the thoughbook . like you to send to me a how to run tor onion browser via command prompt on a Panasonic thoughbook cf