Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials blah blah bleh blah

2015-03-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 3/8/15, Travis Bean wrote: ... > What I have for download on my website, especially the version for > Linux, makes it very simple for an individual with zero computer > knowledge My mom showed me how ta turn it on, but I might need some help with that step next time tha power goes out, cause t

Re: [tor-talk] A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

2015-03-07 Thread Mirimir
On 03/07/2015 06:47 PM, Lara wrote: > nasuno: >> A good rough draft if you are serious. > > A short version of that text would be "Hello god! It's me [author]". One > might think people have made a few steps forward since Moses went up the > mountain. Some shit in heated rooms built only for takin

Re: [tor-talk] A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

2015-03-07 Thread BM-2cUqBqHFVDHuY34ZcpL3PNgkpLUEEer8ev
> nasuno: >> A good rough draft if you are serious. > > A short version of that text would be "Hello god! It's me [author]". One > might think people have made a few steps forward since Moses went up the > mountain. Some shit in heated rooms built only for taking a dump. But > the mind seems blocke

Re: [tor-talk] Blocking Baseless Speculation

2015-03-07 Thread Lara
Libertas: > I think that "legitimate" can probably be defined as "containing some > technical understanding and rigor, and not apparently a product of > paranoid schizophrenia or a related disorder". Meaning... meaningless. > I'm not sure that we should block anything, "We"? Who gives you the ab

Re: [tor-talk] A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

2015-03-07 Thread Lara
nasuno: > A good rough draft if you are serious. A short version of that text would be "Hello god! It's me [author]". One might think people have made a few steps forward since Moses went up the mountain. Some shit in heated rooms built only for taking a dump. But the mind seems blocked in the sam

Re: [tor-talk] FOIPA adventures

2015-03-07 Thread coderman
first responsive one to complete: https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/pet-15590/ "A search of the INTERPOL Washington indices produced 87 responsive pages regarding the Tor Project. We have reviewed the pages and are releasing 3 pages with partial redactions pursuant to Title

[tor-talk] Use ExcludeNodes, ExitNodes and StrictNodes simultaneously in the torrc file.

2015-03-07 Thread Hongyi Zhao
Hi all, Therer are following setting snippets in my torrc file: -- ExcludeNodes bla, bla, bla ExitNodes bla, bla, bla StrictNodes 0 -- I want to know, in the above setting, does the ExcludeNodes and StrictNodes settings will take effect or not? Regards -- Hongyi

[tor-talk] TorBrowserBundle

2015-03-07 Thread Travis Bean
On 03/07/2015 12:06 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote: > Travis Bean wrote: >> ... Linux computer users find TorBrowserBundle to be unwieldy and completely >> insufficient for meeting their needs regarding easy installation and >> configuration of a secure communications system. > > True, it does require tw

Re: [tor-talk] Blocking Baseless Speculation

2015-03-07 Thread Mirimir
On 03/07/2015 01:19 PM, Libertas wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 01:10:32PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: >> On 03/07/2015 11:28 AM, Libertas wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 09:40:59PM +0800, Virgil Griffith wrote: > If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us unsubscribe, > leavi

Re: [tor-talk] Blocking Baseless Speculation

2015-03-07 Thread Jason Cooper
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 01:28:19PM -0500, Libertas wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 09:40:59PM +0800, Virgil Griffith wrote: > > > If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us unsubscribe, > > > leaving the list to its inevitable decline, > > > destined to join the ever-lengthening rol

Re: [tor-talk] Blocking Baseless Speculation

2015-03-07 Thread Libertas
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 01:10:32PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > On 03/07/2015 11:28 AM, Libertas wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 09:40:59PM +0800, Virgil Griffith wrote: > >>> If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us unsubscribe, > >>> leaving the list to its inevitable decline, > >>

Re: [tor-talk] Blocking Baseless Speculation

2015-03-07 Thread Mirimir
On 03/07/2015 11:28 AM, Libertas wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 09:40:59PM +0800, Virgil Griffith wrote: >>> If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us unsubscribe, >>> leaving the list to its inevitable decline, >>> destined to join the ever-lengthening roll of moribund, flame-fil

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials blah blah bleh blah

2015-03-07 Thread Griffin Boyce
Travis Bean wrote: The developer(s) behind TorBrowserBundle are not the authority on computer security. They may think installing vanilla Firefox with Privoxy and Tor is not sufficient, but this is not a valid point. Linux computer users find TorBrowserBundle to be unwieldy and completely insuffi

Re: [tor-talk] Blocking Baseless Speculation

2015-03-07 Thread benjamin barber
So, Tor is fighting censorship with censorship. *slowclaps* On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 10:58 AM, mick wrote: > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 13:28:19 -0500 > Libertas allegedly wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 09:40:59PM +0800, Virgil Griffith wrote: > > > > If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, peo

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials blah blah bleh blah

2015-03-07 Thread Travis Bean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/07/2015 09:15 AM, krishna e bera wrote: > On 15-03-05 02:07 PM, t...@t-3.net wrote: >> >> On 03:05:2015, Travis Bean wrote: >> >>> Stuff >> >> I wonder if this giant pile of mess you've posted in this mailing list >> is related to the products/se

Re: [tor-talk] Blocking Baseless Speculation

2015-03-07 Thread mick
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 13:28:19 -0500 Libertas allegedly wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 09:40:59PM +0800, Virgil Griffith wrote: > > > If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us > > > unsubscribe, leaving the list to its inevitable decline, > > > destined to join the ever-lengthening

Re: [tor-talk] Blocking Baseless Speculation

2015-03-07 Thread Libertas
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 09:40:59PM +0800, Virgil Griffith wrote: > > If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us unsubscribe, > > leaving the list to its inevitable decline, > > destined to join the ever-lengthening roll of moribund, flame-filled > > lists that no longer exist or have

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials blah blah bleh blah

2015-03-07 Thread krishna e bera
On 15-03-05 02:07 PM, t...@t-3.net wrote: > > On 03:05:2015, Travis Bean wrote: > >> Stuff > > I wonder if this giant pile of mess you've posted in this mailing list > is related to the products/services you are trying to sell on the web > site linked in your sig? > > I didn't like what I read

Re: [tor-talk] A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

2015-03-07 Thread nasuno
You had me until the reference to the Telecommunications Reform Act, at which point it became propaganda and ignored. A authentic Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace would stand the test of time and not resort to such. A good rough draft if you are serious. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor

Re: [tor-talk] A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

2015-03-07 Thread Александр
​​ > This is harsh and creates an us VS. them mentality > The US vs THEM is already created. By THEM, by the way. This is the reality. You accept it or not. ​​ -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-

Re: [tor-talk] A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

2015-03-07 Thread z9wahqvh
interesting reflection by JPB in his own words , circa 2007: I suppose I should come up with [a] revised edition. I want to make it more > obvious that I didn't think that cyberspace was sublimely detached from the > real world. It isn't... it's not

Re: [tor-talk] A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

2015-03-07 Thread Kevin
On 3/7/2015 4:50 AM, Александр wrote: ​​ by John Perry Barlow Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovere

Re: [tor-talk] personal note

2015-03-07 Thread l.m
On 3/5/2015 at 5:41 AM, "Dan Cristian Octavian" wrote: >"It's a novel idea to prevent detection of the PT-server by tunneling in some other traffic" instead of being sarcastic, maybe you can focus on wording your message better, I find it quite hard to follow what you write :) I don't think i

Re: [tor-talk] The "StrictNodes 0" will disappeared from my torrc when I do some change on the setting using vidalia.

2015-03-07 Thread s7r
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 And even better you can start using the latest Tor stable which is 0.2.5.10. Your Tor version 0.2.4.24 is listed as 'recommended version' in the consensus, so it's not like you are shooting yourself in the foot, but unless you have a very good reaso

Re: [tor-talk] The "StrictNodes 0" will disappeared from my torrc when I do some change on the setting using vidalia.

2015-03-07 Thread Juan Miguel Navarro Martínez
Inicio del mensaje redirigido: Fecha: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:44:17 +0100 Desde: Juan Miguel Navarro Martínez Para: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Asunto: Re: [tor-talk] The "StrictNodes 0" will disappeared from my torrc when I do some change on the setting using vidalia. Every time you make some s

Re: [tor-talk] Why corrupt government officials are strongly opposed to this Tor project (a Gestapo government run amok!)

2015-03-07 Thread Virgil Griffith
> If a list stops fulfilling these criteria, people like us unsubscribe, leaving the list to its inevitable decline, > destined to join the ever-lengthening roll of moribund, flame-filled lists that no longer exist or have ceased > to serve any useful function on the net. I personally support more

[tor-talk] The "StrictNodes 0" will disappeared from my torrc when I do some change on the setting using vidalia.

2015-03-07 Thread Hongyi Zhao
Hi all, I use vidalia 0.2.20 and tor 0.2.4.24. I found a strange issue, I describe it as follows: In my torrc file, there is a line added by me as follows: StrictNodes 0 When I do some changes on the settings of tor from the vidalia's gui frame, say, changing the proxy setting used by tor to c

[tor-talk] A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

2015-03-07 Thread Александр
​​ by John Perry Barlow Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather. We have no elect