Re: [tor-talk] What's better than Tor for criminals?

2015-06-06 Thread Griffin Boyce
Max Bond wrote: Organized criminals will probably achieve better operational security by conducting themselves in the real world as much as possible. This is not an option available to a lone dissident in an oppressed country. Indeed. There's a great quote from Eliot Spitzer, who used to be

Re: [tor-talk] What's better than Tor for criminals?

2015-06-06 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 04:20:22PM -0400, Charlie Belmer wrote: > I always took it to mean using malware infected hosts, rootkits, and C&C > servers to do the dirty work, which not only makes you hard to trace, but > can also point investigations at the infected host. > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:

Re: [tor-talk] What's better than Tor for criminals?

2015-06-06 Thread Mirimir
On 06/06/2015 02:20 PM, Charlie Belmer wrote: > I always took it to mean using malware infected hosts, rootkits, and C&C > servers to do the dirty work, which not only makes you hard to trace, but > can also point investigations at the infected host. Or Hola Premium ;) > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:

Re: [tor-talk] What's better than Tor for criminals?

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher Baines
On 06/06/15 18:50, torl...@ruggedinbox.com wrote: > I'm trying to understand what these options are and why don't we > non-criminal tech savvy people have some of these better options? > > Is this just talking about the option of using encrypted botnets, or are > there other additional options tha

Re: [tor-talk] What's better than Tor for criminals?

2015-06-06 Thread Charlie Belmer
I always took it to mean using malware infected hosts, rootkits, and C&C servers to do the dirty work, which not only makes you hard to trace, but can also point investigations at the infected host. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Max Bond wrote: > Organized criminals will probably achieve bette

Re: [tor-talk] What's better than Tor for criminals?

2015-06-06 Thread Max Bond
Organized criminals will probably achieve better operational security by conducting themselves in the real world as much as possible. This is not an option available to a lone dissident in an oppressed country. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:50 AM, wrote: > Hello... > > I'm an avid tor lover and user

[tor-talk] What's better than Tor for criminals?

2015-06-06 Thread torlove
Hello... I'm an avid tor lover and user. I'm trying to understand a statement I've heard a number of people on the Tor team and in the Tor community repeat over the years and was wondering if it could be explained. The statement: Paraphrasing, it's been said several times, by Roger, etc, that...

Re: [tor-talk] Invaded by disconnect.me

2015-06-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/6/2015 8:56 AM, Артур Истомин wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 09:06:32PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Don't know much about Disconnect, except what their Privacy Policy states. (and that they are a U.S. company?) https://disconnect.me/privacy 3. We share your personal info only when legally re

Re: [tor-talk] Invaded by disconnect.me

2015-06-06 Thread Артур Истомин
On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 09:06:32PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > Don't know much about Disconnect, except what their Privacy Policy states. > (and that they are a U.S. company?) > https://disconnect.me/privacy > > 3. We share your personal info only when legally required, or when > reasonably necess

Re: [tor-talk] Invaded by disconnect.me

2015-06-06 Thread Артур Истомин
On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 09:06:32PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > Don't know much about Disconnect, except what their Privacy Policy states. > (and that they are a U.S. company?) > https://disconnect.me/privacy Yes, they are US company. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To uns

Re: [tor-talk] Invaded by disconnect.me

2015-06-06 Thread Артур Истомин
On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 09:06:32PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > Don't know much about Disconnect, except what their Privacy Policy states. > (and that they are a U.S. company?) > https://disconnect.me/privacy > > 3. We share your personal info only when legally required, or when > reasonably necess

Re: [tor-talk] understanding client side enforced families ('NodeFamily' parameter)

2015-06-06 Thread nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > I'd like to properly understand the implications of tor's > 'NodeFamily' config option and if there is a DirAuth enforcable > config option similar to this client side option (something I did > not find in the man page yet). > > names convention

[tor-talk] understanding client side enforced families ('NodeFamily' parameter)

2015-06-06 Thread nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, I'd like to properly understand the implications of tor's 'NodeFamily' config option and if there is a DirAuth enforcable config option similar to this client side option (something I did not find in the man page yet). names convention I'm usin