Re: [tor-talk] Tor is anti-censorship software

2016-06-30 Thread Spencer
Hi, Mirimir: segregating networking [to prevent malice] Windows/Bromium micro-virtualization should have helped, it seems, no? Not sure how many "Windows Guys" we have here. Wordlife, Spencer -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other setting

Re: [tor-talk] Tor is anti-censorship software

2016-06-30 Thread Mirimir
On 06/30/2016 05:52 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 03:10:42PM -0400, Paul Syverson wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:54:04AM -0400, Mansour Moufid wrote: >>> The advertising doesn't correspond to reality, because it's false >>> and dishonest, not because the user is dumb. >

Re: [tor-talk] Recent news stories regarding Tor

2016-06-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 05:23:48PM -0700, Spencer wrote: > Hi, > > > > >Zenaan Harkness: > >tor-talk is about to be replaced with tor-users. > > > > Tor-users sounds like a usability list. > > > > >[criticism on] tor-talk is going away. > > > > What a shame. With that goes much of the comic re

Re: [tor-talk] Recent news stories regarding Tor

2016-06-30 Thread Spencer
Hi, Zenaan Harkness: tor-talk is about to be replaced with tor-users. Tor-users sounds like a usability list. [criticism on] tor-talk is going away. What a shame. With that goes much of the comic relief ): Wordlife, Spencer -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org

Re: [tor-talk] Tor is anti-censorship software

2016-06-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 03:10:42PM -0400, Paul Syverson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:54:04AM -0400, Mansour Moufid wrote: > > The advertising doesn't correspond to reality, because it's false > > and dishonest, not because the user is dumb. > > Why do you imply the user is dumb? I certainly

Re: [tor-talk] Recent news stories regarding Tor

2016-06-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 04:56:57AM +, cicada_3...@riseup.net wrote: > On 2016-06-30 01:49, Mirimir wrote: > >On 06/29/2016 01:14 PM, Allen wrote: > >>> > If it were up to me, I would vote at this point to ban grarpamp from > this > list for at least a month for keeping this topic al

Re: [tor-talk] Wikileaks is the Endgame

2016-06-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
Oh, I'd donate a relay, however I really don't feel like logging onto my virtual private server, spinning another one up only to have it compromised in some odd way. Good job on the network guys. Keep it up. > On Jun 26, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >> I am glad to see more direc

Re: [tor-talk] Europe’s ‘Net Neutrality’ Rules Fail to Ban ...tor.... Throttling

2016-06-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually this is why I'm using tor. They are throttling my bandwidth that comes from a site for the blind to nothing. I can browse but that's about it. I can't dl from there. But with tor and my cellphone tethered to my laptop I can. Also if I bypass my isp and use tor as a proxy such as I'm do

[tor-talk] r...@runonhot.xyz tries to deanonymize me

2016-06-30 Thread Oskar Wendel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I used the email I'm posting from only on this list. I participated mainly in topic related to traffic correlation attacks. Today I received an email, which I'm posting completely with the headers below (I only edited my email address to avoid spam,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor is anti-censorship software

2016-06-30 Thread Spencer
Hi, Paul Syverson: it is misleading to assume 'traffic analysis' must imply a global adversary Unless exempted, 'traffic analysis' implies all adversaries. onion routing generally protects against traffic analysis not traffic confirmation Confirmation cannot happen without analysis, it

Re: [tor-talk] meek-google suspended for terms of service violations (how to set up your own)

2016-06-30 Thread Spencer
Hi, David Fifield: meek-google shut down Here is how to set up your own You are the man! Wordlife, Spencer -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] Tor is anti-censorship software

2016-06-30 Thread Paul Syverson
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:54:04AM -0400, Mansour Moufid wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Paul Syverson > wrote: > > > Vitriol aside, the problem is that you don't get to just apply your > > own intuitive decisions about the meaning of technical terms and then > > complain based on that

Re: [tor-talk] meek-google suspended for terms of service violations (how to set up your own)

2016-06-30 Thread David Fifield
On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 06:32:27PM -0700, David Fifield wrote: > meek-google has not been working since May 13, 2016. It is not because > censors figured out how to block it, but because Google Cloud Platform > suspended the reflector web application (https://meek-reflect.appspot.com/). > > The re

Re: [tor-talk] Tor is anti-censorship software

2016-06-30 Thread Tempest
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Mansour Moufid: > The audience of the Tor project, ever since it's provided a > convenient browser rather than just source code, is the average > user, not the technical community. So when the Tor project website > promises "anonymity," they are not