Okey, you made me think twice, I will give the VM machine idea a chance.
That is, once I have the resources to do so. I spend way too much time
in front of a screen nowadays.
Cheers
S
Yuri:
> This is just a fascinating topic, and it is interesting how Tor allows
> to separate singular digital lif
On 04/29/2015 14:26, Sophie Hassfurther wrote:
Thanks for all your input/suggestions. It is really helpful to see
things from various perspectives!
I like the idea of Whonix/Qubes or other VMs, but with my limited skills
I wouldn't consider that a safe option. Simply because I can not
maintain i
Hi Yuri,
Thanks for all your input/suggestions. It is really helpful to see
things from various perspectives!
I like the idea of Whonix/Qubes or other VMs, but with my limited skills
I wouldn't consider that a safe option. Simply because I can not
maintain it.
So if I were to be dealing with ext
Hi Leeroy,
Wow, that is one detailed explanation!
You have been a great help in the course of my Tor adventures, thanks
for all the support!
Cheers
Sophie
l.m:
> Hi Sophie,
>
>> If I would like to suggest to add a warning to the "Before
>> using TorBirdy", where would be the right place to
Hi Sophie,
>If I would like to suggest to add a warning to the "Before
>using TorBirdy", where would be the right place to do so?
If you would like to submit the feature request what you would first
do is connect to Tor's bug tracker [0]. From there you can either
register for your own account o
Hi Yuri,
>If this is the concern that request to check.torproject.org might
>compromise security, this is the clear indication that TorBirdy/TBB
>aren't adequate for the requirements. Clearly, such people should
switch
>to VM isolation, and there is no need to ever go to
check.torproject.org
>
Oh, now I get it... TorBirdy preferences > Test proxy settings sorry
> I am not sure I understand you correctly:
>> The ip check hidden behind a warning dialog hinders obtaining
>> useful data.
> Are you referring to the warning message I got?
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On 04/25/2015 11:20, l.m wrote:
On second thought there is an advantage to discouraging the use of the
check. If something went wrong with the socks port setting using the
check would leak the intention to use tor by connecting to
check.torproject.org. Not a big deal, unless the socks port isn't
Hi Leeroy,
> There's a strong correlation between the perceived usefulness to
> end-users and their support for a FOSS project :) A simple warning is
> easy enough.
:)
If I would like to suggest to add a warning to the "Before using
TorBirdy", where would be the right place to do so?
I am not sur
Hi guys,
What you explained is a little over my head. Also my capacities are very
limited at the moment. I will look into it, soon!
Thanks
S
l.m:
> Hi teor,
>
> You could run TorBirdy through its own instance of the tor client
> software, with a separate socks port.
>
> This would avoid many
>The ip check hidden behind a warning dialog hinders obtaining
>useful data. I'll keep that in mind.
On second thought there is an advantage to discouraging the use of the
check. If something went wrong with the socks port setting using the
check would leak the intention to use tor by connecting
Hi Sophie,
>Options b) and c) would be very luxurious, but option a) really
>solved my problem, and seems quite important for those who
>come from a different background.
There's a strong correlation between the perceived usefulness to
end-users and their support for a FOSS project :) A simple
Hi teor,
You could run TorBirdy through its own instance of the tor client
software, with a separate socks port.
This would avoid many of the issues you're trying to work around in
b) and c), as TorBirdy could happily send NEWNYM to its own client
instance all it liked. There is a slightly inc
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 20:06:09 -0400
> From: "l.m"
>
> Hi Sophie,
>
> …
> When using Tor Browser, the tor process is kind enough to take notice
> when using certain ports (WarnPlaintextPorts). So maybe TorBirdy
> should do the same. That is to say, make TorBirdy more verbose about
> choic
Hi Leeroy,
Yes, Atlas was a poor choice. Before you suggested searching the log
through Terminal, I wasn't even thinking of that possibility.
As for improvements: I think a) would be quite important. Using a better
port worked, as far as I can tell, and I was not aware that I put myself
in a very
Hi Sophie,
Hmm...Perhaps Atlas isn't the best choice here. At any given time the
exits you can choose from are those you know of locally. It might be
better to focus on TorBirdy instead.
When using Tor Browser, the tor process is kind enough to take notice
when using certain ports (WarnPlaintext
Hi Leeroy
> You mentioned trying to perform a similar look-up for exit policies
> using Atlas.
Yes, I tried "25" or "port 25" in Atlas' search, but did not get any
results... it seemed like the most intuitive place to look for port
info. Searching in the local database did not occur to me, before
Hi again,
To demonstrate further the importance of port choice I think a
clarification is in order. From tor's spec [0] an exit may specify an
accept or reject policy. So the number of exits that may allow your
exiting traffic (in this case mail) is those that "accept" and those
that don't "reject
Hello Leeroy,
Cool! Thank you! Works like a charm :)
Terminal commands are becoming my favorite. They sort of remind me of
writing games with my brother from some books he had. Boy was he cool.
Thanks again to everyone involved, looking into my little torbirdy world
and replying and suggesting f
Hi Sophie,
"Sophie Hassfurther" wrote:
>How do I look up which ports work on which exit
>nodes? I tried searching Atlas, but I didn't find
>out how to do a reverse search.
Glad to see the problem appears sorted. To find exit policies I used
the cat and grep commands on microdesc data. This dat
On 04/13/2015 12:55, l.m wrote:
Hi Yuri,
I, er, don't think what you're proposing is the answer to the OP's
problem.
If they're using a port which is only supported by 3 exits they'll
still have the problem. If one exit is blocked and they choose that
one the mail server will see further attemp
Hi Yuri,
I, er, don't think what you're proposing is the answer to the OP's
problem.
If they're using a port which is only supported by 3 exits they'll
still have the problem. If one exit is blocked and they choose that
one the mail server will see further attempts as possibly malicious.
At least
Hi Leeroy,
> It would be highly unusual to be connected to the same exit if your
> mail servers use standard ports. If I'm not mistaken the port you're
> using for outgoing mail (25) is currently only allowed in the exit
> policy of 3 exits.
Thanks for looking into my troubleshooting info and all
On 04/13/2015 12:13, l.m wrote:
The new identity feature is documented to make*new* connections
appear to be from a different user. It doesn't say anywhere that it
terminates existing application connections. That's an assumption on
the part of the user. The only application where there's an exc
Hi Yuri,
"Yuri" wrote:
>I understand your concerns. But I would also like to
>point out that "New Identity" for most implies new
>identity for everything. This is how, I believe, majority
>of technically not very savvy mass users thinks.
The new identity feature is documented to make *new* co
On 04/13/2015 10:15, l.m wrote:
Explicitly closing circuits completely would break third-party
applications in unpredictable ways. It would generate errors that
would lead to posts to tor support describing weird application
behaviour. On the other hand explicitly closing application related
stre
Hi Yuri,
"Yuri" wrote:
>I suggested adding new signal to also terminate old
>connections.
>https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/15660
The problem of closing the connections gracefully is generally left to
the application. In tor's spec it's explicitly stated that it's the
responsibil
Hi Sophie,
"Sophie Hassfurther" wrote:
>[...] so far choosing a new
>identity in Tor did not work for me, but restarting the
>Tor Browser worked. So maybe some circuits did not
>close?
>
>Just a general question: is it normal to get connected to
>the same exit node almost all the time, when I
On 04/11/2015 00:07, Sophie Hassfurther wrote:
Just a general question: is it normal to get connected to the same exit
node almost all the time, when I start my mail program?
I suggested adding new signal to also terminate old connections.
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/15660
On 04/11/2015 00:07, Sophie Hassfurther wrote:
I think what you describe might be correct - so far choosing a new
identity in Tor did not work for me, but restarting the Tor Browser
worked. So maybe some circuits did not close?
I was observing the same with browser. It appears that "change iden
Sophie Hassfurther:
Maybe clicking the online/offline icon at the lower left corner of
Thunderbird between different TorBrowser identities will work. This
process is based on instructions from Security in a Box [0].
1) Start a new Thunderbird (with TorBirdy) session in `offline mode.'
2) S
Hello Malte,
I already did, before sending an email to the list ;)
Basically they only blocked that one exit - for some security reason. I
have been using TorBirdy for quite a while, worked with my mail provider
until Thursday.
So as long as I restart Tor, I can be a "new identity" and send my
e
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:06:06 +0200
Justaguy wrote:
> That error message means that your mailserver rejects you, because the
> IP address you are connected from, blocks you.
> Try to use another exit is my suggested fix.
I also like to email my providers and ask them to stop blocking Tor. Don't
Hi Leeroy,
Thanks for the reply!
I am using the latest Tor Browser bundle (4.0.8), and checked the
signature before installing. Updating does not work for me anymore, I
have to upgrade to a new machine and newer OSX, will do asap.
I think what you describe might be correct - so far choosing a ne
You might also try exiting TorBirdy completely. Then use new identity
in Tor Browser. Then reopen TorBirdy and see if it's still reporting
the same exit.
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Hi,
I would like to ask if you're using the Tor Browser bundle with or
without modification. When the new identity is used in Tor Browser
(it's my understanding--please correct if wrong) that the circuits
related to open tabs are allowed to close. This is because the NEWNYM
signal is issued while
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