Re: [tor-talk] A multi-layer proof of work system to solve the Tor/CloudFlare problem?

2016-01-27 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists
On 1/26/16 10:58 AM, Pickfire wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:09:37PM +0100, Cain Ungothep wrote: >>> That way a normal web client, normally browsing a website, would not be >>> impacted from end-user experience, but any automated system (the ones >>> causing >>> problems to Cloudflare) >>

Re: [tor-talk] A multi-layer proof of work system to solve the Tor/CloudFlare problem?

2016-01-26 Thread Pickfire
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:09:37PM +0100, Cain Ungothep wrote: That way a normal web client, normally browsing a website, would not be impacted from end-user experience, but any automated system (the ones causing problems to Cloudflare) Why can't people separate Tor from Tor Browser in their

[tor-talk] A multi-layer proof of work system to solve the Tor/CloudFlare problem?

2016-01-25 Thread Spencer
Hi, > > Cain Ungothep: > Not all Tor users are lusers sitting > behind Tor Browser, clicking things. > A Tor Suite would be appropriate, much like the way GPG Tools does it. Tor Browser could be the most front facing, much like GPG Keychain. > > the Great Firewall of Shitflare > completely

Re: [tor-talk] A multi-layer proof of work system to solve the Tor/CloudFlare problem?

2016-01-25 Thread Cain Ungothep
Hi, I like your idea but have some criticism to make regarding what you consider users of the Tor network. > That way a normal web client, normally browsing a website, would not be > impacted from end-user experience, but any automated system (the ones causing > problems to Cloudflare) Why can't

[tor-talk] A multi-layer proof of work system to solve the Tor/CloudFlare problem?

2016-01-24 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists
Hello, following a discussion on Twitter on Tor and Cloudflare, i tried to rationalize a possible multi-layer approach for fixing that issue by leveraging Proof of Work. Let's first try to define a couple of points: 1) The issue of Tor, on behalf of Tor users, with cloudflare is a usability