Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-19 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Mirimir wrote: > OK, some streams do last more than a day. But then they must pin the > exit relay, right? So in that case, you'd keep the IPv6 until the stream > ended, even if there were circuit changes with different middle relays. > > I

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-18 Thread Mirimir
On 03/18/2017 12:38 AM, grarpamp wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Mirimir wrote: >> it arguably ought to be a private VPN. > > Run by relay operators was the general idea, a bit more spine, > and more flexible setup. But certainly not restricted to that. Right. >>

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-18 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Mirimir wrote: > it arguably ought to be a private VPN. Run by relay operators was the general idea, a bit more spine, and more flexible setup. But certainly not restricted to that. > Problematic is limited IPv4 resource. I wonder if there's

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread Mirimir
On 03/17/2017 02:40 PM, grarpamp wrote: > An 'exit bridge' in this sense could just be requesting > 'getexitbridges' to send you connection details to > such an OpenVPN termination point. > Operators and others could run this without TPI > involvement and perhaps resist what accurates TorDNSEL.

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread grarpamp
> What's the replacement for BitPay? Government fiat banks and friends will always threat pressure down through the centralized corp exchanges, thus shutting off unverified purchasers of even small goods via etailers (or whatever else bitpay types are processing, like donations to registered

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread grarpamp
An 'exit bridge' in this sense could just be requesting 'getexitbridges' to send you connection details to such an OpenVPN termination point. Operators and others could run this without TPI involvement and perhaps resist what accurates TorDNSEL. Or simply run a parallel network with other exit IP

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 6:01 AM, Mirimir wrote: > And what are possible workarounds? > Maybe specify exits with unlisted IPs. > It's too bad that Tor doesn't have exit bridges ;) Tor's operators can provide this in three ways... 1) Operators setting different

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread Mirimir
On 03/17/2017 04:01 AM, Mirimir wrote: > I've checked a few VPN and VPS providers that use BitPay, and payments > are being rejected. No CAPTCHA, just a message to check with the > provider. I've heard similar reports from others. > > What to do? If anyone has contacts at BitPay, please use them.

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread Aymeric Vitte
What do you want to do exactly? Le 17/03/2017 à 12:39, Moritz Bartl a écrit : > On 17.03.2017 11:37, Mirimir wrote: >> What's the replacement for BitPay? Coinbase? I few providers are >> managing their own wallets, but that brings it's own issues. > Coinbase is not available in Germany so no

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread Mirimir
On 03/17/2017 05:39 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > On 17.03.2017 11:37, Mirimir wrote: >> What's the replacement for BitPay? Coinbase? I few providers are >> managing their own wallets, but that brings it's own issues. > > Coinbase is not available in Germany so no dice for us. Too bad. Coinbase

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 17.03.2017 11:37, Mirimir wrote: > What's the replacement for BitPay? Coinbase? I few providers are > managing their own wallets, but that brings it's own issues. Coinbase is not available in Germany so no dice for us. -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/ -- tor-talk mailing list -

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread Mirimir
On 03/17/2017 04:13 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > On 17.03.2017 11:01, Mirimir wrote: >> I've checked a few VPN and VPS providers that use BitPay, and payments >> are being rejected. No CAPTCHA, just a message to check with the >> provider. I've heard similar reports from others. > > As

Re: [tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 17.03.2017 11:01, Mirimir wrote: > I've checked a few VPN and VPS providers that use BitPay, and payments > are being rejected. No CAPTCHA, just a message to check with the > provider. I've heard similar reports from others. As Zwiebelfreunde/Torservers, we registered a Bitpay 'merchant'

[tor-talk] BitPay seems to be rejecting payments via Tor

2017-03-17 Thread Mirimir
I've checked a few VPN and VPS providers that use BitPay, and payments are being rejected. No CAPTCHA, just a message to check with the provider. I've heard similar reports from others. What to do? If anyone has contacts at BitPay, please use them. And what are possible workarounds? Maybe specify