Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-09 Thread carlo von lynX
Everyone is free to refute sociology or science in general and declare it an opinion. I just came here to suggest a way to handle the situation that nobody else had the idea of suggesting, based on some research that got published on this thing called Internet. I got some good feedback (in

Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 12:23:52PM +0200, carlo von lynX wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 11:16:24AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > I agree with you. Some say "naming and shaming" is the way - I say naming > > bad behaviour, publicly, is not shaming. > > > > Naming simply says "Hang on, that's

Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-09 Thread carlo von lynX
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 05:32:31PM +0200, carlo von lynX wrote: > > That is a possible way a vibes watcher could go about it, but I would > > rather intercept any aggressive postings to appear in the original form, > > but rather send them back to the writer asking to clear up some aspects > >

Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-08 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 05:32:31PM +0200, carlo von lynX wrote: > > Fistly, identify if someone is being bullied, and second, if the target of > > the bully appears strong enough to handle the "bully". > > Even if the target is strong enough, the constellation will still cause > damage I believe.

Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-08 Thread carlo von lynX
> > > The problem is, if the victims have committed crimes themselves > > > by making their stories public, then going before a judge may > > > backfire on them. Not just fake victims, also real victims. > > > They may get prosecuted for defamation on top of having suffered > > > a crime. We know

Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-08 Thread tor_talk
Hi Tor Talkers and Malte, Malte wrote Wed Jun 8 10:47:15 UTC 2016: "Where would you go, and what would you do, if you felt physically threatened by someone, and that same person would be discussing how to design systems to deal with such situations?" Maybe there is an app out there for the

Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-08 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 12:47:15PM +0200, ma...@wk3.org wrote: > Quoting carlo von lynX (2016-06-08 08:28:23) > > The problem is, if the victims have committed crimes themselves > > by making their stories public, then going before a judge may > > backfire on them. Not just fake victims, also real

Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-08 Thread malte
Quoting carlo von lynX (2016-06-08 08:28:23) > The problem is, if the victims have committed crimes themselves > by making their stories public, then going before a judge may > backfire on them. Not just fake victims, also real victims. > They may get prosecuted for defamation on top of having

Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-08 Thread carlo von lynX
On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:08:57PM +0300, ja.talk wrote: > https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2853643-Jacob-Appelbaum-CULT-of-the-DEAD-COW-Statement.html > https://www.facebook.com/cultdeadcow/posts/10157076402890360 Facebook? Ouch. > CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum /

[tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-07 Thread ja . talk
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2853643-Jacob-Appelbaum-CULT-of-the-DEAD-COW-Statement.html https://www.facebook.com/cultdeadcow/posts/10157076402890360 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 06-June-2016 CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror Like much of the hacker community, we

Re: [tor-talk] CULT OF THE DEAD COW Statement on Jacob Appelbaum / ioerror

2016-06-07 Thread juan
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 22:08:57 +0300 ja.talk wrote: cult of the clown cow vomited : > We know that it may be scary, but we also encourage victims to > contact their appropriate local authorities. Just in case somebody out there hasn't yet realized what kind