Re: [tor-talk] Danish data retention on steroids

2016-01-30 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/01/2016 04:36, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > True, but making it official also makes it easier to enforce and to > make every service provider cooperate. > > For Tor competent and systematically logging might worse that > draconian measures by

Re: [tor-talk] Danish data retention on steroids

2016-01-30 Thread aka
Niels Elgaard Larsen: > * Session volume (number of bytes) > 1. Tor would kill this right at the entry-node? Even a user fired up > TorBrowser, typed in http://example.com/foo.mp4, watched the video and > closed the brower, there would be enough negoitiation to obfuscate the > bytecount? > I

Re: [tor-talk] Danish data retention on steroids

2016-01-30 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
aka: > Niels Elgaard Larsen: >> * Session volume (number of bytes) > >> 1. Tor would kill this right at the entry-node? Even a user fired up >> TorBrowser, typed in http://example.com/foo.mp4, watched the video and >> closed the brower, there would be enough negoitiation to obfuscate the >>

[tor-talk] Danish data retention on steroids

2016-01-29 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
I come from a meeting in the Danish ministry of Justice this afternoon, They plan to reintroduce the data retention of Internet sessions. It was scrapped in 2014 after the European Data Retention Directive was declared invalid by the Court of Justice of the European Union. But now Denmark plans

Re: [tor-talk] Danish data retention on steroids

2016-01-29 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > I come from a meeting in the Danish ministry of Justice this afternoon, Why? :) > 3. How many Danish Tor nodes in a circuit would you be comfortable with? I can assure you that a lot of countries will have worse

Re: [tor-talk] Danish data retention on steroids

2016-01-29 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
Anders Andersson: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: >> I come from a meeting in the Danish ministry of Justice this afternoon, > > Why? :) I represented IT-POL, https://itpol.dk/ there will be a consultation in February and we are known to be

[tor-talk] Danish data retention on steroids

2016-01-29 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
I come from a meeting in the Danish ministry of Justice this afternoon, 2. If a Tor user in Denmark, even using all non-Danish Tor nodes post something using HTTP POST to a public blog, even one outside Denmark: could the TOR user be identified given that probably what he posted is public as