Re: [tor-talk] Different degree of identification -> trustworthiness of Tor Relay operators

2016-02-12 Thread Alexis Wattel
‎Hello all,‎ > I would like to propose the topic of introducing a certain degree of > verification, in order to obtain certain responsibilities:‎ On the contrary, I think that this feature could be dangerous. ‎ For some of the  adversaries Tor has, it would be actually very simple to falsify var

Re: [tor-talk] Different degree of identification -> trustworthiness of Tor Relay operators

2016-01-28 Thread grarpamp
Brought up adding these human factors to relays and user programmatic selection of various class of relay, torizen provided classes, etc many times over years in web of trust posts. It never seems to go anywhere. Maybe people are more afraid of relays now. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists

Re: [tor-talk] Different degree of identification -> trustworthiness of Tor Relay operators

2016-01-28 Thread Paul Syverson
I think it could be a good topic for face-to-face discussion. I also think it dovetails with our trust-aware approach. I'm not sure I think ID in the usual official sense will mean much in this context (but we can discuss); however, if a useful notion of identity can be introduced it could be one o

Re: [tor-talk] Different degree of identification -> trustworthiness of Tor Relay operators

2016-01-28 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi Fabio, You continue to bring in interesting controversial ideas and I love you for that! [but not only that :D] My thoughts about it are too complex to express here now with the little time I currently have. We should make this a topic for the developer meeting. -- Moritz Bartl https://www.to

[tor-talk] Different degree of identification -> trustworthiness of Tor Relay operators

2016-01-28 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists
Hello, i've been considering that in the Tor network, end-users deserve the "anonymity by design", but that's not a requirement for Tor Relay operators. So, assuming that any Tor Relay that does bad-things is anonymous (providing un-traceable or difficult-to-be-traced identifiable information), w