Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-02-09 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists
On 2/2/16 1:50 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 03:42:51PM +0100, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists > wrote: >> But 90% of my resources (given the previous hypotetical assumption) >> would be happily pumping non-abuse-generating Tor exit traffic. >> >> Does anyone ever done s

Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-02-02 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists
On 2/2/16 1:50 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > My suggestion to him at the time was to write up the details for why his > design is safe, and get them vetted by other researchers in public, before > proceeding. I haven't talked to him about how it's going since then. > Hopefully he didn't skip too

Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-02-02 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 03:42:51PM +0100, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists wrote: > But 90% of my resources (given the previous hypotetical assumption) > would be happily pumping non-abuse-generating Tor exit traffic. > > Does anyone ever done some kind of testing or analysis about that kind > of

Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-02-01 Thread Elrippo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 A NAS works at home very well, but if you need access from abroad you would need to connect it to your router with a domain. Personally I prefer the mentioned solution, but to blame TOR for the lock out forced by ransomware on your desktop leads m

[tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-02-01 Thread Spencer
Hi, Elrippo: a cloud under your own control A hard drive with Wi-Fi works wonders. instead of blaming It would be interesting to see what they see, so as to understand the source of such confusion. Blame may be accurately placed if Tor is being framed, even if indirectly through con

Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-02-01 Thread Elrippo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Well, using Dropbox generally might not be the best option for the sake of your privacy. It would be smarter to use a cloud under your own control without the control of ONE entity. I may propose to use https://www.owncloud.org instead of blaming a

Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-02-01 Thread Chris Dagdigian
Hi Janos, If your computer was taken over by ransomware that encrypted your files then you are yelling at the wrong people. The "tor people" had nothing to do with this. You are the 2nd person this week to contact the list about this. The first person had no backup/restore capability - at l

Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-02-01 Thread PALMERS CONSULTING LLC
- Original Message From: "Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists" Apparently from: tor-talk-boun...@lists.torproject.org To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 14:26:23 +0100 > Answers in-line.

Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-02-01 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists
Answers in-line. On 1/31/16 5:00 PM, amuse wrote: > Hi Fabio: > > TLDR: No, I haven't and wouldn't try this. > > > If I understand, you're asking "Why don't TOR operators discriminate on > traffic by passing packets to popular, acceptable sites and > discriminating against traffic headed "elsew

Re: [tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-01-31 Thread amuse
Hi Fabio: TLDR: No, I haven't and wouldn't try this. If I understand, you're asking "Why don't TOR operators discriminate on traffic by passing packets to popular, acceptable sites and discriminating against traffic headed "elsewhere" by re-routing it. This view ignores a few fundamental facts

[tor-talk] Exit Traffic classification and discrimination

2016-01-31 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists
Hello, the internet is said to be driving most of it's traffic to a list of some dozens websites, usually major internet companies. I'm wondering if the Tor Exit traffic follow the very same rules. I'm just assuming that if the traffic destinated to the top-30 website in the world, make up (for