==tldr (Too Long, Didn't Read)
Where will Tor's bandwidth come from in 20 years? Will solo volunteers
still exist, or will all the bandwidth come from Tor-friendly
organizations?
Tor incentive schemes are interesting. There are many proposed schemes
but their crypto needs to be reviewed and lots
Overall I like the idea, since it forces no one to participate. Nodes
not interested in getting bitcoin donations, just don't get any.
What about bridges? Any way to reward them as well?
George Kadianakis:
> As a simplified example, if the Tor network has 4 relays with
> bandwidth contribution 0.
Hi,
In some way, this is what we are planning to do with torservers.net,
right? We take donations via any channel (including Bitcoin), and
distribute them across all participating organizations based on, in the
current model, advertised bandwidth and a country-specific factor.
It is definitely mo
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:25:41 +0300
George Kadianakis wrote:
> Currently, (we want to believe that) the Tor network is run by a bunch
> of cypherpunks that are contributing bandwidth because they believe in
> the Cause.
>
> If relay operators start getting money for their bandwidth, we might
> en
Roman Mamedov:
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:25:41 +0300
> George Kadianakis wrote:
>
>> Currently, (we want to believe that) the Tor network is run by a bunch
>> of cypherpunks that are contributing bandwidth because they believe in
>> the Cause.
>>
>> If relay operators start getting money for their
Hi,
On 17.08.2013 17:52, adrelanos wrote:
>> I am sure there is a clever scientific term for the phenomenon that when you
>> start paying *some* of your volunteers, others are gonna look and ask, "huh
>> wait a second, we're all doing the same work, yet the other guy now gets
>> paid,
>> and I am
It is indeed a tough problem, but I guess we have to try and see how it
works out. In the end, it is/would be about covering parts of actual
*costs* of infrastructure, not the time people volunteer to maintain it.
It is already the case that (large) parts of the Tor network are funded
by donations
>> If relay operators start getting money for their bandwidth, we might
>> end up with relay operators that are just in for the money.
>
> And you will also end up with having less operators who run relays just
> because they want to support the idea of privacy/freedom/etc.
Part of it is not direc
Adrelanos said:
> Overall I like the idea, since it forces no one to participate. Nodes
> not interested in getting bitcoin donations, just don't get any.
>
> What about bridges? Any way to reward them as well?
>
> George Kadianakis:
> > As a simplified example, if the Tor network has 4 relays w
