Re: [tor-talk] Idea: Public verification of exit nodes and their maintainers - Fwd: [tor-relays] specifying your own entrance and exit nodes

2014-12-17 Thread usprey
Thanks for the feedback! =) I am thinking of basing a tor exit web of trust on https://keybase.io/docs API and at least requiring to have http proofs on, and dns proofs in relation to, the exit nodes as well as including public key fingerprint in ContactInfo. http proofs (txt-files) can easily be

Re: [tor-talk] Idea: Public verification of exit nodes and their maintainers - Fwd: [tor-relays] specifying your own entrance and exit nodes

2014-12-11 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > grarpramp,If Tor only consisted of hidden services, wouldn't this class of > traffic-fudging problems go away? (I'm assuming the handful of centralized > services most people use would just generate vanity addys.) No. Sybils / forgeries

Re: [tor-talk] Idea: Public verification of exit nodes and their maintainers - Fwd: [tor-relays] specifying your own entrance and exit nodes

2014-12-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
grarpramp,If Tor only consisted of hidden services, wouldn't this class of traffic-fudging problems go away? (I'm assuming the handful of centralized services most people use would just generate vanity addys.) -Jonathan On Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:52 AM, grarpamp wrote: From

Re: [tor-talk] Idea: Public verification of exit nodes and their maintainers - Fwd: [tor-relays] specifying your own entrance and exit nodes

2014-12-11 Thread grarpamp
>From the exact same thread duplicated a month ago that is worth reading for what everyone said there: Assume you have a base set of some web of trusted nodes, which is then easier/cheaper for an adversary on average... A) Sybil up enough individual faces that can prove own their node in person

Re: [tor-talk] Idea: Public verification of exit nodes and their maintainers - Fwd: [tor-relays] specifying your own entrance and exit nodes

2014-12-11 Thread Gareth Owen
Hi I'm not sure the "web of trust" idea is reliable - It doesn't seem to work very well for PGP to be honest. The second point is that identifiable exit node owners doesn't necessarily add any security - identities are easily faked including building up relationships as that identitiy over time.

[tor-talk] Idea: Public verification of exit nodes and their maintainers - Fwd: [tor-relays] specifying your own entrance and exit nodes

2014-12-11 Thread usprey
Please see forwarded messages from tor-relays below. Summary: The problem: A user suspects interference with traffic on exit connections. Users ad-hoc solution: The user has defined his own (too short?) list of trusted exits. Proposed long-term solution: Use existing web of trust systems to let